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Post by suzuki on Jun 10, 2013 7:26:02 GMT -8
Has the Cites legislation now changed regarding the sale of P. hospiton? I raise this in the light of a new ebay listing for a pair of endemic "swallowtails from Corsica" by p.apollo from Czech Republic. Does this mean it is now not necessary to be put to the cost and secrecy of a trip to Corsica only to be poisoned by the dreadful foodplant?
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Post by wollastoni on Jun 10, 2013 8:01:06 GMT -8
Still protected under CITES + French regulation...
Even if it is a common species, not endangered at all, in Corsica.
Some French insect associations are working to make the regulation change. But as you can imagine, those kind of changes take a lot of time.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 10, 2013 12:38:27 GMT -8
any link to the item, cant find it.
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Post by lepidofrance on Jun 10, 2013 13:28:10 GMT -8
See : Excursion entomologique en Corse (juin 2003). Note sur les conséquences des incendies sur une population de Papilio hospiton (Luc Manil et Yvan Diringer) www.lepido-france.fr/revues/annee-2003-volume-12/Entomological tour in Corsica (June 2003). Note on the effects of fire on a population of Papilio hospiton [/ i] (Luc Manil and Yvan Diringer)
Where it is shown that Papilio hospiton is a common species in Corsica! Nevertheless protected !
lepido-france.com/64-blp-n-25-vol-12-2003.html
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Post by bartekgoldyn on Jun 10, 2013 14:32:01 GMT -8
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Post by saturniidave on Jun 10, 2013 17:04:33 GMT -8
It is protected and he should not be selling it. Note he doesn't use the proper name in case it pings up on their list of restricted species. It is damned expensive too!
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Post by Deleted on Jun 11, 2013 0:22:17 GMT -8
In the last month we have had both chikae and hospiton on ebay, I just hope this does not alert the authorities to come down on all insect collecting like a ton of bricks.
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Post by wollastoni on Jun 11, 2013 1:34:37 GMT -8
Yes those people undermine the all insect trade ... and thus our passion.
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Post by iroki on Jun 11, 2013 8:47:02 GMT -8
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Post by Adam Cotton on Jun 11, 2013 8:57:03 GMT -8
Just because he's an advertiser in the classifieds doesn't mean he's a registered member of the Insectnet forum.
Adam.
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Post by Chris Grinter on Jun 11, 2013 17:01:04 GMT -8
Possibly not a member, but the post should be deleted and the user warned/banned (in my opinion!)
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Post by Adam Cotton on Jun 12, 2013 3:29:31 GMT -8
Possibly not a member, but the post should be deleted and the user warned/banned (in my opinion!) Yes, I agree that Clark should not allow adverts in the classifieds for CITES appendix 1 species. It gives Insectnet and all insect collectors a bad name. Adam. |
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Post by jonathan on Jun 12, 2013 11:27:15 GMT -8
I agree with Chris & Adam.
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Post by zdenol123 on Jun 12, 2013 12:52:51 GMT -8
In the last month we have had both chikae and hospiton on ebay, I just hope this does not alert the authorities to come down on all insect collecting like a ton of bricks. its the same like this forum, Dunc ! How many posts and photos of alexandrae, chickae or appolo is here ? And ALL about the words - fortune, $$$...big..small...more money... (puke)Authorities are not stupid, they know where to look  |
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Post by lepidofrance on Jun 12, 2013 14:39:06 GMT -8
"How many posts and photos of alexandrae, chickae or appolo is here ?" Certainly, a lot! But among these posts, a lot of pictures of butterflies photographed in nature (living and non-captured) and many others captured or photographied before the implementation of CITES. In my case, I agree with those (such as Adam and Chris) who condemn the sale of butterflies listed on CITES (although it can be assumed that the CITES lists for butterflies - and not for cats or primates - have a fantastic relationship with reality). |
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