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Post by Adam Cotton on Mar 13, 2020 11:49:43 GMT -8
I would like to share a very important symptom difference between Covid-19 and colds/flu. Most symptoms are almost identical, except that if you have a runny nose it is NOT Covid-19, unless you are very unlucky and you have a cold/flu at the same time. People suffering from Covid-19 do not have a runny nose, but other symptoms are very similar to colds and flu.
Please ensure you wash your hands thoroughly for at least 20 seconds with soap or use alcohol sterilising gel whenever you return home or while out and about, and try not to touch your face until after washing your hands.
If you think you may have Covid-19 do not go to see the doctor or go to a hospital. Contact your country's health service online or by phone from home and they will advise you what to do.
Adam.
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Post by bandrow on Mar 14, 2020 8:30:59 GMT -8
Hi Adam,
Thanks - I hadn't heard this detail presented in all the contradictory noise we're getting in the U.S. Depending on the source, it's either a hoax or the End Times here. People are hoarding toilet paper and hand sanitizer and clearing the grocery shelves. They closed our museum today for 2 weeks, and I'm working from home for a while - inconvenient, but doable thanks to a 20-drawer backlog of mixed Coleoptera needing sorted and ID'd.
There's a guy on the news right now saying "if you panic, you secrete steroids into your blood stream, thereby taxing your immune system and making you more susceptible"?? Could be true - could be extrapolation of a minor effect. But panic seems more in vogue here... actually had a neighbor tell me this morning that we don't have any test kits in the U.S. because we gave ours all away to Iran to help them first - purely a theory right off of Facebook...
The new craze of "social distancing" is a welcome societal change for me - fewer fools to abide. And if someone starts to bother me, a good, hearty fake sneeze will back them off!!
Stay healthy, everyone!
Bandrow
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Post by miguel on Mar 14, 2020 9:54:54 GMT -8
This morning I went tothe market near my home,people fighting for a piece of meat,no milk to buy and of course no toilet paper(I really need it)I had feel foreign shame of how many stupid people is living in our world.
Miguel
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Post by Paul K on Mar 14, 2020 10:19:13 GMT -8
It seems that virus is effecting human’s brain function in those who are not infected.
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Post by wingedwishes on Mar 14, 2020 11:30:22 GMT -8
Miguel,just go to McDonalds and ask for extra napkins.......
I'm heading to a fossil and crystal dig on Monday. Good things that fuel prices are down and it won't be crowded at the mine.
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Post by miguel on Mar 14, 2020 12:53:29 GMT -8
Miguel,just go to McDonalds and ask for extra napkins....... I'm heading to a fossil and crystal dig on Monday. Good things that fuel prices are down and it won't be crowded at the mine. All the pubs and restaurants are closed here for at least 15 days |
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Post by exoticimports on Mar 14, 2020 15:20:42 GMT -8
I’m ready to lock down. I have no doubt daughters school will close tomorrow. Unfortunately wife and son still working so we have that vector. Otherwise I’d have no need to go anywhere public for weeks.
20 rolls paper towel.
24 rolls TP
30 pack beer
Freezer full
35,000 rounds
3000 specimens papered
I’m good. Good luck to you all.
Chuck
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Post by Adam Cotton on Mar 14, 2020 22:29:08 GMT -8
Clarification:
It does seem that sometimes a runny nose can occur in Covid-19 patients, but that could be due to other infections at the same time too.
If anyone has symptoms, runny nose or not, the best course of action is to self-isolate until recovery unless you need medical treatment, in which case do not go to the hospital, contact the medical services from your home and they will assist you.
Adam.
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Post by wingedwishes on Mar 15, 2020 9:51:49 GMT -8
That is awesome! Heart disease and auto accidents kill even more as well. I'll get it or not....If it does lower the population then ok. My people (Aboriginal Americans) tend to think - And you people told us the smallpox virus is small. Good post Jan. I am going to benefit from it though. I'm driving tomorrow to dig crystals and fuel prices are low as well as the number of people at the mine will be less so more for me to find as I dig......
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Post by bandrow on Mar 15, 2020 13:02:32 GMT -8
Greetings,
I noticed the same irony as Jan - the U.S. has had over 22,000 flu deaths this season alone, with kids getting hit hard, but there was no toilet paper hoarding, no hand sanitizer crazes, no empty shelves at the grocery stores. I will say it again - I fear stupid people doing stupid sh*t more than I fear this virus...
Cheers!
Bandrow
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Post by exoticimports on Mar 15, 2020 14:34:48 GMT -8
The difference is a death rate higher than the flu, and the fact that NOBODY has been immunized against COVID.
Chuck
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Post by jtaylor on Mar 15, 2020 17:52:18 GMT -8
Can't wait until Covid-19 sees another virus thinks it's cute and they decide to swap genetic material. The next mutation is coming.
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Post by bandrow on Mar 15, 2020 19:11:02 GMT -8
Yes - we have a flu vaccine; yes - Covid-19 has a higher fatality rate... but my point remains - over 20,000 people died and we still consider it "just the flu".
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Post by kevinkk on Mar 15, 2020 20:04:32 GMT -8
Even though I suffer from emphysema, and would probably be in a bad way, I do see a lot of potential amusement in the current situation. Normally, where I live in my city of 7000 people, it's quiet, except it's a tourist town, and we are about to be overrun with tourists, all from the big cities. It's feeling a bit closed in right now. I don't get the toilet paper thing, it's inexplicable, and one might draw a number of scenarios of what people expect to do with 3 months worth of Charmin. Air travel, the vector, this situation is going to fundamentally change things, and hopefully for the better, people are going to be passing thru some scfi decontamination tunnel, at least international travel doesn't require the quarantine that people's pets have to...yet. I'm sure of a lot of doomsday preppers are feeling pretty good right now. Ammunition and soap, that's the ticket. The numbers don't explain the panic do they? It's fear of the unknown, where I live, at least several times a year, people walk off cliffs taking selfies, and fall into the ocean, and our store shelves are empty of hand sanitizer, but there are plenty of life jackets. I feel for the ones at risk, from something that we'll never know the true source, and the use of this situation by person's with an agenda, or looking for profit is reprehensible, and that's something there is no shortage of. |
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Post by Adam Cotton on Mar 16, 2020 0:09:16 GMT -8
Many countries have already either closed their borders entirely or require arrivals to spend 14 days in quarantine on arrival.
Adam.
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Post by exoticimports on Mar 16, 2020 3:39:28 GMT -8
Most people are nervous about TP because it’s a convenience item. They don’t think of the hygiene issue. www.foxnews.com/us/oregon-police-public-stop-calling-911-toilet-paperFact is, many have never used an alternative and wouldn’t know how. And in some areas (such as urban areas, unsurprisingly the same areas that are unprepared) they don’t have the tree leaves and other resources. Not would they know enough not to flush a wad of leaves down the toilet. This isn’t a swipe, it’s simply the way it is. Face it, the preppers are sitting fat and happy now. Meanwhile in NYC they’ve got to be scared to death to go search amongst the crowds for basic necessities. My wife thought I was nuts when I said one last trip to Walmart then no more markets for two weeks. But now suddenly I think she’s figuring it out. Local confirmed cases shot up 800% in two days. |
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Post by radusho on Mar 16, 2020 5:49:38 GMT -8
Yes - we have a flu vaccine; yes - Covid-19 has a higher fatality rate... but my point remains - over 20,000 people died and we still consider it "just the flu". Sure, because most people reffer to common cold as flu. Also there is a cure for flu and we know how the virus behaves. |
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Post by joachim on Mar 16, 2020 16:59:52 GMT -8
It seems that virus is effecting human’s brain function in those who are not infected. Yes Paul, it seems you and Adam and me ( maybe some or most of people in this forum ) have a clear look at reality and a good self reflecting so that we can watch all the others like in a bad C movie.Here in Germany most shops, restaurants etc. are closed. super markets are still open. I have a good place at home for work and a package with new butterflies tomorrow.some city centres ( also in other european countries ) look like a wild west city before high noon....Take care of yourself, Joachim |
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Post by joachim on Mar 16, 2020 17:10:51 GMT -8
well, i remember
Tu quoque, Brute, fili mi!” (You too, Brutus, my son!) as Caesar said while dying. the toquoquism is when people do or think what others do, like if you look at wikipedia and other papers, you will see that people just copy what they have read before. So, if you copy something and you will find somebody else did it like you, you can say"oh, tu quoque" What I saw all the time when people bought toilet paper, they tried to hide it or put in into the car when nobody is watching. embarrassing
Nowadays, the buy plenty of it and I think "Oh, tu quoque, you also have to use the toilet.... what a surprise" So the funny way to have a look at all the stuff.
ÄÄhhm
I was in a bank, two masked people came in, oh I was so lucky, bank robbers, no corona infected ones!!!!
Another joke: the corona virus is made in China, it is not a copy like all the things they copy from us.
So take care of all of you ,
Joachim
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Post by nomad on Mar 22, 2020 13:43:28 GMT -8
In light of the situation being much worse and the very high death rate and the compliant made, I deleted two posts under Important coronavirus information, as I agreed that it was making light of the very worrying situation, and I also deleted my rant on the other forum, as it seems unfair to point the finger. As a moderator I felt this was the right thing to do. We should not been seen to making fun of such a global catastrophe. Stay safe.
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Post by joachim on Mar 22, 2020 17:18:45 GMT -8
Hello all, how is the situation in Thailand, Laos,Vietnam?
best wishes and take care,
Joachim
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Post by leptraps on Mar 22, 2020 19:10:24 GMT -8
I live alone with two female cats. I am house bound, well stocked with the essentials, a dozen nice Ribeye Steaks, 48 cans of Pork and Beans, twelve cans of air freshener, 12 boxes of cereal, two gallons of milk, I have 14 jumbo size rolls of TP, 12 Rolls of paper towels and 48 cans of fancy feast cans of cat food, plus a 24 pound bag of dry cat food. And, about 30 pounds of cat litter.
For some reason, I loaded all my guns. I also have 12 gallons of water.
So, I am ready. At least I think I am ready.
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Post by nomad on Mar 22, 2020 23:07:27 GMT -8
Its good to remember even those that are vulnerable to the virus, cannot always self isolate. This tragedy has shown us there are two types of people in the world. Those that have been panic buying and hoarding (so the elderly and vulnerable cannot even get essentials) to self isolate even thought there is nothing wrong with them. Respect to all those brave people on the front line, those they are keeping the supermarkets open, the health care workers, the police and many others. The more people that take this catastrophe seriously the better we will be!!
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Post by Adam Cotton on Mar 23, 2020 5:02:28 GMT -8
Hello all, how is the situation in Thailand, Laos,Vietnam? best wishes and take care, Joachim
I am not sure about other countries in the region, but the number of infections in Thailand has been creeping up in the past couple of weeks and most shops are closed until mid April in several cities including Chiang Mai. Supermarkets, groceries and petrol stations are open. Take away food is available but all restaurants cannot have customers eating in situ. My son is having online lessons arranged by his school as all schools were shut last week. |
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Post by miguel on Mar 23, 2020 9:47:36 GMT -8
Here in Spain we have now more than 2100 deaths and more than 33000 infected and growing fast.
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