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Post by coloradeo on Jun 6, 2018 19:24:26 GMT -8
I haven't had time yet to get to lycaenids and skippers... I will someday and hopefully before I retire, but not there yet.
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Post by Paul K on Jun 7, 2018 4:37:51 GMT -8
I haven't had time yet to get to lycaenids and skippers... I will someday and hopefully before I retire, but not there yet. I noticed that most of us do this way, but I think we should be starting from smallest insect while our hands and eyes are still in good working order and then move on to Papilios, Sphinx and Saturnids. Paul PS. Your box sounds very exciting, too bad can’t jump over the border to here.
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Post by mothman27 on Jun 10, 2018 9:23:32 GMT -8
This sounds cool! If there happens to be an opening please let me know and I would be happy to participate.
Thanks, Tim
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Post by exoticimports on Jun 11, 2018 5:21:46 GMT -8
Question on packaging: how to most safely pack the specimens inside the tupperware.
I was planning on simply layering them in between sheets of batting. Certainly that will work. However, that does not prohibit movement. My personal papered material I keep in Ziploc bags, then in tupperware. When stuffed pretty good and most excess air removed from the ziploc bag specimens seem pretty tightly kept which reduces movement.
What do you guys think? Layered in batting? In bags? Other?
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Post by jhyatt on Jun 11, 2018 7:01:31 GMT -8
I've occasionally had stuff apparently slide around in bags, to its detriment. Guess it's OK if the air is squeezed out and there is some good tight batting around the bag. I presume that double-boxing will be used...
No matter how one does the packing, antennae are always at risk and some damage is bound to happen - especially in a lot that will have been, in part, shipped several times. Fortunately I'm not a stickler for perfect material!
Cheers, jh
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Post by marsdenda on Jun 11, 2018 9:11:38 GMT -8
I have tried both methods. I think either works. The trick is to pack the specimens tightly enough that there is little or no movement in the box but not to tight to crush the envelopes. Either works, with the bags we could put families in different bags so those not interested in a group would not even have to sort through that bag. But there are likely to be around 80 to 100 specimens in the box so probably just layering should be fine.
Dave
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Post by exoticimports on Jun 14, 2018 4:38:50 GMT -8
LAUNCH!
Box is shipping within an hour.
Order of rotation: Coloradeo jhyatt bugboys3 joee30 beetlehorn mikeh leptraps marsenda exotic imports
I tried to bounce it around the country, though we have a bulk of members in TN/ KY.
It's going USPS Priority Large Flat Rate Box. That's $18.90 shipping. It all fits well in the Large Flat Rate box, I suggest everyone use that. That means it's also trackable, and insured for $50. You don't have to re-use this box, they are free at the post office.
Inside the box is a tupperware and roll of tape. When you ship again, tape the tupperware closed and put the tape in the box. You'll need to supply your own tape to close the Flat Rate box. There is also additional poly batting in the box that you may elect to use in the tupperware to protect specimens.
In the tupperware is the participant list. After you finish with your swap, send it on to the next guy. Make sure the participant list IS IN THE TUPPERWARE. Hint: write down the next guy's address before you put the list back into the tupperware and seal it up.
Since I pre-loaded the box it's already 80% full. Don't know what to do about that, guess you guys will figure it out.
MAKE SURE YOUR SPECIMENS HAVE YOUR NAME OR INITIALS FOR IDENTIFICATION
My donations FYI are variable. Some are local bugs stuffed in envelopes in bad fashion. Some are unobtainium. Sorry about those that are poorly packaged, I don't recommend it, but they were on top and *might* be of interest to somebody. I don't think any one individual can clean out the rarer stuff (remember: 10 is the limit!), so it should make it through at least a few participants. Just maybe participants will be nice enough to leave some of the rarer stuff for later guys.
Coloradeo, you're first- don't screw this up! :-)
Chuck
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Post by coloradeo on Jun 14, 2018 22:01:10 GMT -8
Ok, I get it. The pressure is on! Thanks for the honor of going first Chuck. JHyatt send me a PM if you can think of anything from the Rockies (or AZ) you're particularly interested in and I'll see if I have it.
Eric
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Post by exoticimports on Jun 15, 2018 4:35:40 GMT -8
Ok, I get it. The pressure is on! Thanks for the honor of going first Chuck. JHyatt send me a PM if you can think of anything from the Rockies (or AZ) you're particularly interested in and I'll see if I have it. Eric On the participant list that accompanies the box (is IN the tupperware) are the interests of each member. No reason not to post here though. I'm most interested in papilio glaucus complex (any ssp from anywhere, eurymedon, multicaudatus, etc.), the "black" swallowtails except polyxenes, saturnidae and especially ceratocampidae (eacles, citheronia, ssysphinx, anisota, etc.)
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Post by coloradeo on Jun 17, 2018 21:34:56 GMT -8
Got the box! Thanks Chuck! Nice selection. I will have it back out Tuesday or Wednesday with some stuff I've caught in the past year from Colorado, pretty fresh. - Eric
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Post by exoticimports on Jun 18, 2018 5:54:32 GMT -8
Got the box! Thanks Chuck! Nice selection. I will have it back out Tuesday or Wednesday with some stuff I've caught in the past year from Colorado, pretty fresh. - Eric So what did you grab?
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Post by marsdenda on Jun 18, 2018 7:30:18 GMT -8
Chuck,
Maybe you could put out an email to the 8 of us that are in this butterfly exchange. That way we could email just the group without going through the insect net forum.
Just an idea to make it easier to email among this group as hopefully this exchange will go on for some time.
Dave
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Post by exoticimports on Jun 18, 2018 11:28:25 GMT -8
Chuck, Maybe you could put out an email to the 8 of us that are in this butterfly exchange. That way we could email just the group without going through the insect net forum. Just an idea to make it easier to email among this group as hopefully this exchange will go on for some time. Dave Done. Everyone should have received an email with the spreadsheet attached. That way we all know where the box is. If you're going to be gone for a while (vacation or what have you) and it might be coming to you, let the guy before you know so he can either speed it up or hold on to it. Chuck
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Post by coloradeo on Jun 21, 2018 18:08:33 GMT -8
John the box will be at your place Monday according to USPS.
Thanks Chuck... I took out a few Mexican saturniids you had placed in there along with a few sphingids and speyeria. Put back in much of the same from Colorado and Utah, most of which is labelled and identified to the best of my abilities. Fun to have "YES" up and running again! Nice work Chuck.
Eric
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Post by LEPMAN on Jun 29, 2018 17:05:48 GMT -8
I assume Im a little to late to join, maybe next time. This sounds very interesting and I would deffitnely be interested.
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