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Post by mothman27 on Mar 2, 2019 12:38:37 GMT -8
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Post by Paul K on Mar 2, 2019 14:13:35 GMT -8
Considering how hard it is to find live cocoon here in Ontario I would say the price is about right for wild cocoon.
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Post by eurytides on Mar 2, 2019 17:52:27 GMT -8
Considering how long it took me to find my single cocoon, I wouldn’t sell it for any price!
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Post by beetlehorn on Mar 2, 2019 23:39:56 GMT -8
That is one cecropia cocoon for 130 bucks?!? Damn.....for that price I could get rich considering all the cecropia cocoons I have had. That is if they would all sell at that price. I just can't see it.
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Post by exoticimports on Mar 3, 2019 5:32:46 GMT -8
Considering how hard it is to find live cocoon here in Ontario I would say the price is about right for wild cocoon. Did you look around Confederation Basin and north and east of the bridge and near the fort? Also Gan and a Brockville? Maybe more inland as well. Probably stay off The Shield where exposed since that tends to be dry scrub and austere.
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Post by Paul K on Mar 3, 2019 5:38:33 GMT -8
Considering how hard it is to find live cocoon here in Ontario I would say the price is about right for wild cocoon. Did you look around Confederation Basin and north and east of the bridge and near the fort? Also Gan and a Brockville? Maybe more inland as well. Probably stay off The Shield where exposed since that tends to be dry scrub and austere. Hi Chuck I’m in Toronto(Mississauga), Eury lives in Kingston. Too far for me to go search there.
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Post by eurytides on Mar 3, 2019 6:55:49 GMT -8
Hi Chuck, I did look around the water front as you suggested. Didn’t find anything, dead or alive. I took care to look under benches and wooden staircases. If the female cecropia ecloses properly, I will see how many males she attracts and that will give me a better sense of population density. Maybe they are just uncommon in my area.
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Post by Paul K on Mar 3, 2019 8:42:19 GMT -8
When should I take my cocoon out the fridge? How long usually take Cecropia moth to develope?
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Post by eurytides on Mar 3, 2019 10:22:53 GMT -8
About 3 weeks. Take it out mid May. Do you know if it’s male or female?
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Post by Paul K on Mar 3, 2019 11:07:59 GMT -8
No, I didn’t open the cocoon, is it better to remove pupa from cocoon?
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Post by 58chevy on Mar 3, 2019 11:38:23 GMT -8
Last time I looked, the going rate for a cecropia cocoon was about $6. Why would anyone pay $130? Have cecropias suddenly become rare, or is this just a typical ebay ripoff?
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Post by eurytides on Mar 3, 2019 11:59:55 GMT -8
I think it’s because this is a “wild” cocoon, not one that was raised, i.e. mass produced. That’s why it’s so expensive.
Paul, doesn’t hurt it either way. I was just asking if you knew the sex of the pupa. If female, you might get some eggs to raise.
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Post by Paul K on Mar 3, 2019 12:18:43 GMT -8
Yea, I was thinking about it if it is female I could try to get some eggs, but I don’t have any specimen of cecropia yet so I am not sure if I would want to take that risk.
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Post by eurytides on Mar 3, 2019 12:41:45 GMT -8
That’s why I think you should look at the pupa. If it’s male, you have a specimen. If it’s female, you have to think if you want a specimen or eggs.
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Post by beetlehorn on Mar 3, 2019 22:32:08 GMT -8
If the cocoon is wild, then in my opinion there is a much greater risk of it being parasitized. At least if it were reared in a sleeve for example, the larvae would be better protected from Ichneumon wasps and other parasites. In my experience, Wild Black Cherry is the best host plant for Hyalophora. My success rate is usually much higher using it. Works well for C. promethia, Automeris species, and a good many other Saturnidae.
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