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Post by mygos on Feb 28, 2014 1:41:44 GMT -8
There will be some interesting butterflies and beetles on sale at www.rieunier-associes.com/html/infos.jsp?id=18201&lng=frPapilio zalmoxis pair Charaxes jolybouyeri female Charaxes fournierae fournierae pair Charaxes lydiae pair Argema kuhnei and besanti males Catalogue will be online soon ... A+, Michel |
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Post by mygos on Feb 28, 2014 2:15:28 GMT -8
From the catalogue :  A+, Michel |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2014 2:56:37 GMT -8
WOW, now that is a dream for any entomologist, just like a female antimachus.
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Post by africaone on Feb 28, 2014 3:09:57 GMT -8
how did you reach the catalogue ?
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Post by mygos on Feb 28, 2014 3:20:51 GMT -8
how did you reach the catalogue ? Because I am a VIP ! It will be online next week ... A+, Michel |
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Post by trehopr1 on Feb 28, 2014 11:00:02 GMT -8
Thanks so much Mygos for posting the picture of a Zalmoxis female!
I have never seen a picture of the female -- ever.
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Post by nomad on Mar 2, 2014 0:04:53 GMT -8
Please let us know what price the zalmoxis pair achieves. The females always seem to stay up in the canopy.
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Post by africaone on Mar 2, 2014 0:43:34 GMT -8
The females always seem to stay up in the canopy. i think that nobody knows (canopy is like a myth for entomologist !) as the foodplant is not yet discovered ! What is surprising for a such big insect. Maybe because the breeding is not well develloped in Africa. A such specific program for antimachus or zalmoxis has never been organised in Africa. all the females are caught at human level. |
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Post by nomad on Mar 2, 2014 1:24:15 GMT -8
I have seen quite a few web-sites where it states that P.zalmoxis is a canopy specialist, but the males are caught, because they like to drink at mud puddles. I suppose the few females that have been caught, are on the very rare occasions when they descend to lower levels. As you mentioned its quite surprising no one has discovered the foodplant and bred this spectacular butterfly. I would suggest that no one has found the foodplant because it is way up there in the forest canopy. Even Torben Larsen rarely encountered the Males. Peter.
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Post by africaone on Mar 2, 2014 2:01:01 GMT -8
May be .... may be not !
other females rarely caught or seen in Africa lay inside the forest at ground level (I had personally the case for G. biokensis and P. hesperus). This is the same for Charaxes.
Did you know that the type of fournierae is an ex pupa specimen and at least 3 others hunters seen a female laying at ground level.
One can suppose that, relating their wingspans, antimachus and zalmoxis are more open area flyers than Inside the forest. This is why one can suppose the foodplant may be a creeper or a a same king of foodplant living the interface forest /open air. Note that female antimachus are very much more smaller than the male and it is not so bigger than i.e. hesperus, that lays inside the forest.
Papilio fying inside the forest are very difficult to catch and if you know that you will catch one easily in open area, I am quite sure you will not try to catch it in the forest.
I made the experience to cacch any graphium and papilio fying inside deep forest and the result is that the ratio male / female is "more natural", the problem being there are quite few and they are quite difficult to catch.
canopy species means that the foodplant is typical of canopy ! I am not a botanist but are there many species that don't start to grows at ground level ? except of course bromeliacae, orchidacae, ferns, etc that are surely not the foodplant researched ?
So few is known in Africa !
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Post by iroki on Mar 2, 2014 2:12:36 GMT -8
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Post by nomad on Mar 2, 2014 2:29:21 GMT -8
Africaone interesting informations. There is plenty of space above the canopy. I think as regards to paying a large amounts for specimens, it depends on what you want for your collection. As Papilionidae is a much sought after group, this specimen well easily sell, and it depends on what you consider interesting, that's surely up to the individual collector. |
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Post by Adam Cotton on Mar 2, 2014 8:53:45 GMT -8
There is plenty of space above the canopy. True, Peter, true, but I'm not sure that's where they will be. It can be quite hot in the full sun above the canopy as well as there being plenty of space. It is also quite possible that they are just below the canopy, in the space below the main branches of the tall trees but well above our puny level. Adam. |
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Post by lepidofrance on Mar 3, 2014 14:22:28 GMT -8
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Post by lepidofrance on Mar 3, 2014 14:38:09 GMT -8
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