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Post by lordpandarus on May 30, 2021 13:29:29 GMT -8
This could be Lycorea ilione albescens (Danaidae) or Olyra crathis (Ithomidae) Can anyone clear this up for me?  |
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Post by marsdenda on May 30, 2021 14:45:41 GMT -8
Looks like an Ithomid I don't think the Lycorea have the curved bottom of the forwing, that is more of a Ithomid character . Where is the location as the Olyra crathis has a number of subspecies.
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Post by Paul K on May 30, 2021 14:47:12 GMT -8
Olyras theon
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Post by lordpandarus on May 30, 2021 18:23:58 GMT -8
xicotepec ,puebela mexico
so it's Olyras
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Post by lordpandarus on May 30, 2021 18:27:50 GMT -8
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Post by livingplanet3 on May 31, 2021 6:22:57 GMT -8
It seems likely that the anaeine Consul fabius (below) is part of a mimicry ring involving Olyras theon and various other species of similarly colored, poisonous Ithomiini & Heliconiinae? -  |
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Post by lordpandarus on Jun 1, 2021 19:24:26 GMT -8
So Lycorea ilione albescens (Danaidae) and similar Olyra theon (Ithomidae) would both be poisonous and mimic each other?
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Post by livingplanet3 on Jun 1, 2021 20:33:41 GMT -8
So Lycorea ilione albescens (Danaidae) and similar Olyra theon (Ithomidae) would both be poisonous and mimic each other? Those two species are indeed remarkably alike in appearance, but as for whether they are actually mimicking each other, I'm not sure. They could very well be Müllerian mimics of each other. In any case, red and black (or orange and black) markings are warning coloration in a large number of butterflies of various families, though there are of course species with those colors, that are not poisonous. It seems that quite often however, non-poisonous red and black or orange and black butterflies are Batesian mimics of species that are toxic. For example, Limenitis archippus obviously mimics Danaus plexippus, and Papilio rumanzovia is thought to mimic Pachliopta kotzebuea. |
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Post by Adam Cotton on Jun 2, 2021 1:10:07 GMT -8
I think you will find that Papilio rumanzovia mimics Atrophaneura semperi.
Adam.
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Post by livingplanet3 on Jun 2, 2021 7:56:44 GMT -8
I think you will find that Papilio rumanzovia mimics Atrophaneura semperi. Adam. True - Atrophaneura semperi does seem a closer match than Pachliopta kotzebuea. |
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