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Post by yorky on Dec 28, 2020 13:43:24 GMT -8
Never seen them as extreme, the io is incredible and the blue spots on the antiopa are the largest I've ever seen.  |
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Post by yorky on Dec 28, 2020 13:44:30 GMT -8
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Post by trehopr1 on Dec 28, 2020 21:11:52 GMT -8
Well, what the hey !
So, your the lucky winner of that o'h so cool N. antiopa auction.
You know I bid rather heartily "I might add" on all 3 of these which were offered up for auction
these last two months. I had to "cave-in" eventually and/or "fold my hand" so to speak when then bids
kept climbing beyond my comfort zone.
The 1st honey was captured for $88 bucks plus shipping. The 2nd was had for $55 bucks plus S&H. Don't recall
where the last one ended.
Anyway, how lucky you are to have won this one. I am feeling a bit "green around the gills" with envy...
Bravo nonetheless and nobody does these better than Waldemar. He also does impeccable preparation on all he offers !
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Post by leptraps on Dec 29, 2020 4:32:20 GMT -8
Boy, did I blow an opportunity to make a few bucks. I had a dozen or more of Nymphalis antiopa in my Bait Traps this summer. I did take two pair for my collection, I let dozens of them fly.
In early June I found a small Willow Tree with a couple dozen larvae of Nymphalis antiopa. About a week later they pupated. A week or more later, about six (6) adults emerged along with a couple dozen parisitic flies.
The Mantua Wetlands are full of Salix alba(??), White Willow. At $40.00 a specimen, I could make a nice buck or two....
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Post by yorky on Dec 29, 2020 5:33:02 GMT -8
This one went for $47. Its the best form antiopa for me, the last ones as you rightly say went for more. Normal antiopa don't fetch $40 a specimen, more like $5, I tried bidding more io but lost,this was the most extreme form on offer so I'm glad that I won it.
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Post by Paul K on Dec 29, 2020 7:38:29 GMT -8
N.American’s N.antiopa are different subspecies than nominate in Europe. It is a common butterfly here in Ontario ( ssp. lintnerii ) and I also have seen them in Calgary, Alberta (ssp. hyperborea). I never find them in Rocky Mountains mid to higher elevation.
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Post by bobw on Dec 29, 2020 7:49:47 GMT -8
Interestingly, in the Palaearctic I believe they are obligatorily single-brooded and I don't know anyone who's managed to pair them after overwintering them in captivity. Obviously, further north in Canada they are also single-brooded, but further south in the States they are multi-brooded and can be paired in captivity, even after overwintering.
I've found larvae and reared them from southern France, Kyrgyzstan and northern Yukon, but never had a pairing.
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Post by yorky on Jan 31, 2021 10:42:39 GMT -8
One more couldn't resist Attachments:
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Post by livingplanet3 on Jan 31, 2021 12:20:12 GMT -8
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Post by yorky on Feb 21, 2021 10:56:27 GMT -8
Just won another, cheaper this time, I won't bid on any more now. Attachments:
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Post by trehopr1 on Feb 22, 2021 22:30:41 GMT -8
My, aren't you the lucky sport; nabbing two of those fantastic antiopa in the last 2 months.
I really gave it to go at trying to win one of these with the first four specimens that were offered. However, after the fourth one I just gave up on trying because of the competition for ownership.
I switched my focus instead to some of the Comma (abbs.) being offered as very few bidders seem interested in them. I suppose they are not quite so eye catching as the antiopa's but, I still find them nifty. I have managed thus far about four of them which satisfies me.
The Inachis (abbs.) are of partial interest to me and I particularly like the ones in the photo just above your last post. However, those are still a little "gamey" in trying to win one. I have not yet gotten one of those but, the competition is only half as much as on the antiopa's.
The Inachis that have the transparent-ish wings with a lack of eye spots just don't do anything for me...
I managed to win one of those about a year ago but, once I had it in hand I pretty much thought well, that's enough of those fellows.
Anyway, all of your specimens are fantastic looking and thanks for posting them.
*Maybe a small favor would be if you could post both of your antiopa specimens together if possible...
Cheers...
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Post by leptraps on Feb 23, 2021 2:28:55 GMT -8
I am surprised at the value of Nymphalis antiopa. I do not purchase nor do I sell specimens. By mid June I will probably collect 40 or 50 plus individuals of Nymphalis antiopa in my Bait Traps.
I collected several hundred over a month of Bait Trapping in southern Indiana near the Ohio River.
I saw Nymphalis antiopa as regular in my Bait Traps in the Mantua Wet Lands last year, 2020.
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Post by Adam Cotton on Feb 23, 2021 3:01:43 GMT -8
leptraps, Normal specimens aren't worth much, these are artificially induced aberrations being sold on eBay. Adam.
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Post by yorky on Feb 23, 2021 3:44:02 GMT -8
See above post, I've already alluded to the value of normal antiopa, obviously ignored. I'll try and post pictures side by side but it usually won't let me because of the picture size. There was an incredible io in his latest batch but bidding went above what I was willing to pay.
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Post by yorky on Feb 23, 2021 3:48:08 GMT -8
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