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Post by exoticimports on Sept 9, 2020 4:51:16 GMT -8
there were no survivors at the Little Big Horn.... I thought thousands of Lakota survived. That's priceless! It is all perspective. The Seneca Nation has a nifty museum and it tells all about how the French came and burned up their villages; oh those poor, defenseless natives! Somehow the Senecas fail to mention, in their version, that at the time all their men were off eliminating the Hurons and attacking the Neutral Nations; maybe if they'd stayed home they could have defended their homeland...but that's conveniently overlooked and the saddened white man visitor only gets half the story.
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Post by wingedwishes on Sept 9, 2020 5:24:14 GMT -8
It is very true exoticimports. ALL groups write their own history and tilt toward themselves but it is the victor who gets to circulate the 'correct' history. There was even a cannibal aboriginal American tribe who averaged 6' tall (all dead now). One of African slave ship was captained by an aboriginal black African man. Our vision appears to me to be colored by the traditions and community around us. A tool that is neither good nor evil in itself. How the tool is used is where judgement will be passed by our ancestors.
I learned in Florida with so many cultures present (New Yorkers, UK, Canadians, Greeks, Mid Westerners,and other 'Snow Birds') that what comes out of someones mouth may not have the same meaning to me.
One of many examples - 'Cracker' is an insult to many whites. To some white folks in Florida it is the job of a hard worker 'cracking' a whip over oxen to motivate to move and work hard and so is a compliment.
I remember a conversation here about a particular female politician where the member said he would like to see her wearing nothing but suspenders. To me, a pair of suspenders clip onto pants to hold them up and I asked him where a naked woman would clip suspenders. To an Englishman, suspenders meant something like a garter belt. Misunderstanding language nuance has caused much difficulty. In this example, the beauty of the woman was crudely complimented but the words did not communicate it. Apologies if recounting this as an example has irritated.
How refreshing that this conversation has remained cordial. Thanks guys (guys having been used as a gender neutral all inclusive moniker to attempt to communicate a tone of conviviality wherein no adverse intentions were present by myself).
Cheers! Tyson
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Post by exoticimports on Sept 9, 2020 6:00:09 GMT -8
My burly Australian mate wears thongs.
How's that!!??
Chuck
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Post by leptraps on Sept 9, 2020 7:32:09 GMT -8
I read a book about General George Armstrong Custer. Not one of his better days. He was killed and scalped along with all his men.
Several years ago my late wife and I visited Little Big Horn. I was well worth the trip.
I would suggest you read a book about General George Custer before visiting the Battle Field Site.
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Post by leptraps on Sept 9, 2020 7:52:42 GMT -8
We as Americans know very little of the culture of others races. I managed a plant in Greenwood, Mississippi. And yes, I can spell Mississippi correctly.
Although segregation was very evident, my late wife and I declined to join a church in Greenwood, Mississippi. Church's were either one color or the other. We did however visit funeral homes for the employees and their families.
However, I saw racial hatred in full color.
Every Christmas my wife and I held a Christmas Party at our home for my staff. Both Black and White. No one was required to attend. However, everyone of my staff made an appearance.
I was told by the LeFlore County Sheriff, who was White, that Mississippi needed more people like me.
Regardless of how difficult life can be, you can make a difference.
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Post by wingedwishes on Sept 9, 2020 9:32:08 GMT -8
Conversely, 30 years ago I applied for a state job to study population densities of native wildlife. There was a man waiting to be interviewed who was white. As we waited to be interviewed we talked. He was far more accredited and experienced. I knew he would get the job. Strangely, I was called to fill the position. When I asked why the other guy did not get the job I was told "well.....he ummmm...wasn't like me....you know.....tribal." The government wanted me only to fill a racial quota. Man was I angry. I had my foolish pride. I turned down the job. I might have been different later though.
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Post by wingedwishes on Sept 9, 2020 9:35:42 GMT -8
My burly Australian mate wears thongs. How's that!!?? Chuck Ummm.Wow. Of course here in America, your mate is your spouse. I do understand the difference between your mates and polygamy.....
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Post by exoticimports on Sept 9, 2020 12:10:52 GMT -8
wingedwishes- "never look a gift horse in the mouth" So since we're on to stories- my buddy, I'll call him Dave, was working in the DC area. Dave is a real history buff. His father and grandfather are & were veterans. So Dave tells a taxi driver to take him to the nearest VFW. He's greeted outside the door by this VERY large black guy, and asks if the VFW is open. "SURE IS", says the greeter, "COME ON IN!" Dave walks in to discover that this is a BLACK VFW post! Everyone, except him, is black. He said he can barely remember the final couple hours there. And he's going back next time.
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