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Post by andresheleno on May 21, 2020 14:37:09 GMT -8
Hello
In my opinion i prefere colect insects because they are more interesting, but coins and watches are more easy to save and last forever widout any damage.
Another problem is that insects don t have a fixed pryce and is not easy to sell.
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Post by exoticimports on May 21, 2020 15:45:21 GMT -8
Hello In my opinion i prefere colect insects because they are more interesting, but coins and watches are more easy to save and last forever widout any damage. Another problem is that insects don t have a fixed pryce and is not easy to sell. Coins change with the price of metal. And you never sell them for what you paid, unless metal prices skyrocket. Watches appreciate slowly. Joe average wants a new showy watch, so its a limited collectors market. Submariners are on the rise. Exotic cars waffle with the economy. In the long run they are a good investment, but has to be long term. Buy at the bottom. Right now good are BMW M Roadster, Lotus Esprit Turbo, Porsche 944. But of course maintenance is time and money. Guns. Collectible guns are a no brainer. The saying goes “you didn’t pay too much, you bought too early”. Last week a Beretta m70 kit sold for $1400. This week 800 were thrown on the open market at $400 retail, they were gone in four days. Six months from now they will be $1400 again. Best Buy in USA now are SG43 and M53 kits. |
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Post by bandrow on May 22, 2020 7:02:17 GMT -8
Greetings,
I can't add anything to Exoticimports' reply as I don't follow other collectible markets. I did collect beer cans in the 1970's and now realize what a waste of time that was - I have about 2,000 cans in the garage that are worth whatever the going rate/pound is for scrap aluminum. Talk about not holding value! I do have an O.J. Simpson football card from the 70's - that I can't find - but that's one problem of having too much crap.
To the point of the poster's question - collecting insects does not require the upfront investment that collectors of coins, watches or cars, guns, stamps, etc. must be able to invest. Some of these items can be passed down through families and increase in value over time, but most collectors have to go out and find these items and acquire them through purchase or exchange.
On the other hand - I can put $5.00 of gas into my generator, run it for 4 hours and have hundreds, if not thousands, of new "collectibles". Over time, insect collectors certainly end up investing a fair amount of money into their hobby - mostly in "infrastructure" - drawers, pins, cabinets, travel and lodging costs, etc. But unless you purchase the actual specimens, one can gather a lot of specimens at little cost.
Also - many of us start out in this hobby as kids and starting a collection with free and found supplies is possible. Buying your first Lotus Esprit Turbo at age ten is not too doable - at least for the kids I grew up with!!
Cheers!
Bandrow
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Post by andresheleno on May 22, 2020 10:31:29 GMT -8
Hello, thanks
The major problem about colection of bugs is that they are easy to buy, but if you whant to sell is very dificoult, you have to get autorizations and other permissions.
The only whay that i use is to make trades with other colectors.
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Post by nomihoudai on May 22, 2020 10:48:31 GMT -8
Well, on an insect forum I don't think anyone will make the case for coin or watch collecting,... except maybe panzerman, but he isn't around that often anymore. He had a large collection of gold coins.
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Post by trehopr1 on May 22, 2020 12:05:45 GMT -8
I agreed with bandrow in that insect collecting is easily one of the most inexpensive start-up hobbies. One can essentially remain a "small game hunter" for life and only need to spend money here and there on their proper housing needs. Proper accorded care insures their preservation.
I have never been bothered in the least by "infrastructure expenses" associated with the hobby. It is a necessity if you hope to enjoy the everlasting beauty and strangeness which insects offer to all those who would admire these creatures ! I have always been a man of modest means and yet I have always found means within my budget to care for (and where possible) enhance my passion for the hobby.
My passion has been a life long one. I began catching insects at age 5 in my father's flower garden using my grandmother's empty pill bottles. Started my first collection by age 8 and have spent my life engaging this passion of mine as often as possible... It has always been for me the most calming and pensive aspect of my life. When I engage in it (whilst in the field or curating a drawer etc); all of life's other issues (good or bad) fade away. I am a natural at being a naturalist. I may not possess the out of doors skills which the early Aurelians had for really "roughing" it for long periods in exotic jungles; but, my passion and love for this science has been every bit as un-wavering and enduring as theirs.
I am an aesthetic collector. I collect for the beauty and strangeness which mother nature herself offers. My collection is the physical means by which I "capture the beauty" of these six-legged creatures. I would never engage in this hobby for investment. I make trades with others here and there and, yes I do purchase some things when I can get them but, only if I truly "desire" them. I just try to stay focused on those things which interest me most and I just have to gloss over the others... That being said, I still find boundless interest in all things insect related but, I just don't have to have it all.
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Post by kevinkk on May 22, 2020 16:56:49 GMT -8
Insects started out being free to collect. Then I wanted more, and then I needed something to store them in, then I needed something to
house the storage cases. Then I wanted to have insects not in my area..
This is a subject I can speak from experience about. Collecting anything. I have old comic books, which while they can increase in
value, it's not for the inexperienced if you want something worthwhile.
I collect vintage toys, now, the word "vintage" is somewhat subjective, personally, things from the 80's are not vintage, to me,
vintage are pre 1980 items, like Marx toys, or a Mattel Thingmaker, which by the way you can make your own bugs with..out of superplastic.
Things are worth what someone is willing to pay, and that's it, as far as the money goes, do I get pleasure from my collection of Aurora model
kits? Yep, will they be worth what I paid in 20 years? Maybe. The same goes for all the other things I collect, some things won't mean a thing
to anyone after I'm fossilized, the preferred method of internment for a dinosaur enthusiast.
Original movie posters, pretty much art work, but not exactly on the same level as Van Gogh are a safe bet, as are my books..at least most
of them.
Collect what you like, and like what you collect, and you can't go wrong, unless you obsesses over Ebay and what your items are selling, or
not selling for, it's why I don't own stocks.
I'd agree a gun is a good investment, for a number of reasons. Make sure you buy ammo too. I do keep the silver coins I get now and then in change, you'd be surprised.
Insects aren't difficult to buy, at least here in the USA, and it's correct that sometimes permits are required, I've found that out before
after stomping out of the post office on my way to a different post office...
Timing is a big factor in what you pay, and what you can sell for, knowing when those times are is the hard part, but then you'd be a clairvoyant and probably wouldn't bother with mere material possessions.
A lot of the fun of collecting is the hunt, and finding that thing you don't have, when I first started collecting insects, it was always
an adventure, and exciting, and it's that way now with everything I collect, unless you obsess over the money, there's a zillion things I'd like
to have and just as many I'll never have or be able to afford, you can't judge your success from what other people have.
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Post by Paul K on May 22, 2020 17:19:58 GMT -8
Searching for insects last for a live time, collecting anything else only for a short time.
I don’t collect insects, I search and hunt for them. Adventure of my life.
Happy hunting
Paul
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Post by yorky on May 23, 2020 1:35:08 GMT -8
I think the reason why we collect insects, for most of us is that it grabbed our attention in childhood. If you collect insects solely for monetary gain then that is the mindset of a dealer not a collector although some do both having a personal collection and then separate insects for sale. You can spend as much or as little as you like on this hobby, that is the beauty of entomology. Of course if you have been doing it for a long time you are aware of the value of papilio lampsacus, certain ornithoptera, prepona, agrias,papilio etc, historical specimens caught by famous collectors, extinct species. I dare say that if I sold up now I would never have to work again but I enjoy my collection and my job so I see no reason to at the moment and my children will probably benefit financially after my demise.
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Post by SoCalMountainman on May 24, 2020 7:03:33 GMT -8
Searching for insects last for a live time, collecting anything else only for a short time. I don’t collect insects, I search and hunt for them. Adventure of my life. Happy hunting. Paul Agreed! Part of the enjoyment of our hobby was the "hunt"! Who remembers finally seeing that prized specimen on the wing, only to swipe and miss it and not see it again for days and weeks! I personally experienced this with the Viceroy, The Queen and The Giant Swallowtail - very rare sights in Santa Barbara County. I could have purchased them but it would never have been the same as actually catching one with the net! |
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