Framed Monarch

[wingedwishes]

One pf my green house raised babies. Planning a big crop this year. On Ebay, I find these are just as popular as art as Morphos or Uranids/

[papiliotheona]

You naughty boy you! Don't you know Monarchs are ENDANGERED!!! There are only 2000 left west of the Continental Divide! They will go extinct any day you insect murderer!

[wingedwishes]

Oh, I'll stop breeding them immediately.

[trehopr1]

For what it is worth; that post was reviewed by admin/moderators group
and was deemed a manner of tongue-in-cheek sarcasm and/or "form" of humor.

Otherwise, it would have been either edited or deleted.

[Adam Cotton]

Somehow I suspect that wingedwishes was also being tongue-in-cheek with his reply. He said he would stop breeding them, rather than stop putting them in frames.

I would recommend members add a smiley to a post that is a joke, so that there can be no misunderstanding. Unfortunately tone of speech does not convert to the written word.

Adam.

[wingedwishes]

Adam is right. I did not believe ill intent was there. 'naughty boy' is not to me usually part of a serious debate. I responded in kind. I usually don't use emoji as they can also convey multiple meanings.

[kevinkk]

I think we all caught on, after all, there are more than 2000 down in Monterey,CA. I remember whale watching there, and being
surprised seeing a few flying around the boat, and later found out there is a grove where they overwinter, not as big as the
one in Mexico, but it's there to see.

[livingplanet3]

I recall having seen monarchs while in Australia in the mid-1990s, and had wondered if they'd reached the continent on their own, or if they were another of the many human introductions (intentional and unintentional). This article explains the history of the species there -

www.abc.net.au/radionational/programs/offtrack/flying-weeds:-how-the-monarch-butterfly-colonised-australia/6768228

[wingedwishes]

I remember a paper referenced here of them overwintering in some valleys in New Mexico. Perhaps past warmer winters caused them to not migrate as far. With this years wild cold in the Northern Americas I will continue to watch with interest the population densities of many local/migratory species. Since they are established and not migrating in many other parts of the world, they are not currently in peril. They are in Central America,the Bahamas,and also Hawaii (to name a few of their other homes).

Cheers!
Tyson

[wingedwishes]

Apr 11, 2021 17:48:42 GMT -8 livingplanet3 said:

I recall having seen monarchs while in Australia in the mid-1990s, and had wondered if they'd reached the continent on their own, or if they were another of the many human introductions (intentional and unintentional). This article explains the history of the species there -

www.abc.net.au/radionational/programs/offtrack/flying-weeds:-how-the-monarch-butterfly-colonised-australia/6768228

Thanks for the article. I enjoyed the implication that no one would be happy about breeding invasives like Cane Toads but that people are ok with D. gilippus because they are 'pretty.'

Reminds me of my wildlife officer days when we would say that the only difference between a rat and a squirrel is a hairy tail and better publicity.