goat
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Post by goat on Sept 27, 2018 7:33:36 GMT -8
Do you think 90 usd is good price for 110 mm prosopocoilus giraffa keisukei male?
Sorry for my English, I am using a translator.
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Post by bandrow on Sept 27, 2018 17:41:43 GMT -8
Hi Goat,
I see that Insect-Sale (see banner on the home page) has 90mm specimens for $8.00 - seems a big jump from $8 to $90 for 20mm in size. Are 110mm specimens that rare? I'm not a lucanid collector so I really don't know the values, but it does seem odd that folks will pay an extra $10-50 for a couple of millimeters in length. A bug can vary in length by a couple of mm just based on the angle that one is looking at the ruler!
Cheers!
Bandrow
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Post by africaone on Sept 27, 2018 22:15:26 GMT -8
the price depending on length for Lucanid is not linear (more asymptotic), there is a very big difference at this level between 90 and 110 mm ...
the price with 6 numbers are due for difference of no more than 1 mm.
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Post by bandrow on Sept 28, 2018 17:20:22 GMT -8
Hi Africaone,
I see the same effect in the Cerambycidae in the case of Titanus - every 10mm equals another $100 or more. In reality, one could place a 110mm specimen next to a 120mm specimen and from 4 feet away, they'd look the same size. I have acquired many great species for my collection at low prices by going after the "small" specimens - and while not trophy size, they all are nice additions. But I am more interested in species representation than trophy-sized bugs. Each to his own!
Cheers!
Bandrow
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Post by wollastoni on Oct 1, 2018 2:38:17 GMT -8
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Post by bichos on Nov 9, 2018 18:19:41 GMT -8
I purchased a 116 some years ago. NOT CHEAP. no regrets however, as you dont see them at that size very often.
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Post by boghaunter1 on Nov 10, 2018 9:54:28 GMT -8
I have a 115mm specimen obtained about 10 yrs. ago, in exchange with K. Thorne,that was valued @ $45.00 USD. Perfect A1 & a real bargin compared to today's prices. The world record specimen, @ that time, was reported (on the internet...) to be a monster of 128mm! Anyone own or know of more current larger specimens?  John K. |
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Post by africaone on Nov 11, 2018 0:32:11 GMT -8
recently a Prosopocoilus giraffa daisukei male 121mm gone for 2353 $ on ebay ….
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poisonarrow
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Post by poisonarrow on Nov 12, 2018 7:39:51 GMT -8
But that probably was close to world record for ssp. Daisukei. That size is also hard to reach in breeding, so the price probably is somewhat realistic. I remember buying 110+ keisukei from Indonesia 10 or so years back, for 20 usd. Good value increase  Cheers Ben |
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Post by 58chevy on Nov 12, 2018 8:09:17 GMT -8
An 86mm (world record?) Dynastes granti was once offered for only $40US on Insectnet.
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Post by boghaunter1 on Nov 12, 2018 14:52:56 GMT -8
Just found it in my notes: A correction to my recent 10 Nov. 2018 post - The world record size for a male Prosopocoilus giraffa keisukei from Flores Isl. was 124mmm (not 128mm); still a monster & said to be found in either a German or Japanese collection... imagine the price one could command for it now!
John K.
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