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Post by putangitangi on Jul 15, 2013 13:01:55 GMT -8
Both these species are currently being advertised for sale on the internet, despite being on the Cites protected insects list. The penalties under Australian law for collecting or trading these Lucanids are quite severe, so unless you have a $100,000 to spare, it's best to stay away from them.
Putangitangi
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Post by bichos on Jul 16, 2013 2:06:18 GMT -8
Are you sure they are on CITES? Its unlikely at this stage.
They are all captive bred specimens anyway.
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Post by antroherpon on Jul 16, 2013 9:59:31 GMT -8
Nope, they are not CITES protected. Before you stated something like you could look at CITES appendices with protected species (just Dynastes satanas and genus Colophon are CITES protected beetles). Btw, both species breed easily and are long term established in breeding and do not need "import support". They are not very attractive (too small for majority of breeders although nicely colored) and therefore bred mostly by "collectors" those want have as many Lucanids in breeding as they can (greetings to Japan  ). They can be sold and traded legally. Just you can not go there and COLLECT them, but who will do it if you can purchase bunch of larvae for few bucks? |
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Post by bichos on Jul 17, 2013 5:10:21 GMT -8
Too right, talk about sweating on the small stuff!
C'mon...
Let's get real, there's bigger fish to fry.
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Post by putangitangi on Jul 17, 2013 18:44:36 GMT -8
It's interesting just how many protected insects are now 'bred in captivity'. Some of them must have been there for many, many generations. Anyway, the onus is on the traders to prove the provenance. Let's know how you get on.
Putangitangi
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Post by bichos on Jul 24, 2013 23:30:21 GMT -8
No one needs to prove anything. Theres no one to prove it to anyway.
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). They can be sold and traded legally. Just you can not go there and COLLECT them, but who will do it if you can purchase bunch of larvae for few bucks?