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Post by lordpandarus on Jun 29, 2013 22:05:00 GMT -8
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Post by colin12303 on Jun 29, 2013 23:58:55 GMT -8
Hello
Look at my post from 18th December last year.
I was sent a pair of butterflies supposed to have come from that locality.
They were not what they were advertised as.
cithaeron and xiphares are not that hard to seperate i usually do it by the hind wing patches.
xiphares are smaller with greatly reduced white in them,in the males.
The females are very different
Post a picture of your specimens so we can have a look.
If you would like i could post pictures of some of my specimens.
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Post by lordpandarus on Jun 30, 2013 20:10:06 GMT -8
I'll try to get some shots. I haven't uploaded on this new message board yet
But it is like the drawers in the link. They look almost identical. Other xiphares ssp are easier to distinguish
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Post by lordpandarus on Jun 30, 2013 20:17:41 GMT -8
ok, pics
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Post by lordpandarus on Jun 30, 2013 20:20:21 GMT -8
I can't figure out how to upload pics
I added attachments in my previous post that uploaded from my PC and nothing shows up
I try to upload a small 90kb pic and it says the forum has exceeded the attachment limit
Unless I have to upload to another site like Photobucket and then link it here
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Post by africaone on Jun 30, 2013 23:45:59 GMT -8
xiphares from N Kivu is burgessi (not desmondi)
the differences in males are in FW wing shape and underside HW pattern. Note that there are some xiphares females that are so close to cithaeron females that is not easy to distinct
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Post by wollastoni on Jul 1, 2013 1:31:26 GMT -8
LP < it seems nobody cannot attach pictures anymore... see my message in the "Technical Issues".
Clark ? We need you ! :-)
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Post by lordpandarus on Jul 1, 2013 16:40:49 GMT -8
C. xiphares desmondi (?)  C. cithaeron kennethi  anyone can tell me the difference between xyphares and cithaeron? (well I can see small differences, but nothing that can't be attributed to specimen variation) |
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Post by africaone on Jul 2, 2013 4:24:49 GMT -8
all the two cithaeron !
On eBay there is a mix between Kenya and N. Kivu as material is mixed by the providers (they work together and sent parcels without localities !)
I adverstised some ebayers about the problem but it seems that nobody believed it !
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Post by lordpandarus on Jul 2, 2013 15:56:47 GMT -8
thanks!
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Post by africaone on Jul 5, 2013 1:48:33 GMT -8
did you bought to COLLEY-COLLECTABLES on eBay ?
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Post by lordpandarus on Jul 5, 2013 13:20:03 GMT -8
yes, the top one
The bottom one is from Collector's Best Buy or Machanoides (don't remember)
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Post by colin12303 on Jul 6, 2013 4:45:53 GMT -8
I am posting a pic of xiphares desmondi pair on the left and cithaeron kennethi pair on the right. With these N,Kivu butterflies on ebay you can also maybe include Tanzania and farther west DRC in with Kenya.  |
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Post by lordpandarus on Jul 6, 2013 21:06:35 GMT -8
Yes, but looking at the picture you can still confuse the males of the 2 species. Sure one is a different blue, but if you look at series it could be individual variation
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