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Post by bluemoth on Apr 3, 2013 11:17:41 GMT -8
Checked my light this morning and was shocked to find 20 White Lined Sphinx moths there. I normally get at the max 3 or 4 in one night. Most of the time only 1 or 2. Most were fresh and in good condition. I even see a few flying during the day !! That behavior is rarely seen in this part of California. I am in Santa Cruz County. May be a migration is coming from the south? Has any one els in the west coast seen a population increase? Well if any one needs some for there collection just send me a private message.
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Post by Chris Grinter on Apr 3, 2013 12:23:34 GMT -8
White-line populations fluctuate on large scales. They also move large distances - so if it's been a good year in the deserts you could have them showing up all over the state in larger abundances. You can collect them by the thousands a night on a good year in Arizona.
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Post by jensb on Apr 4, 2013 12:12:30 GMT -8
Hello,
Hello bluemoth(or someone else),
I would search for ova's from this species.
Maybe we can exchange for the european hyles livornica.
Greet jens
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Post by ckswank on Apr 4, 2013 18:55:57 GMT -8
bluemoth - Similar situation here in SE Texas (Brazoria County) during March.
Charlie
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Post by bluemoth on Apr 5, 2013 13:13:16 GMT -8
Hi jensb. I would love to do trading over seas to get European sphinx moths but the high cost of permit per vents me from doing so. Collecting eggs of the White Lined Sphinx should be fairly easy. I have heard you can put female in paper bag and she will lay eggs over night.
Guess the Sphinx had a good breeding season in the south and are moving north from what is being said. I had 12 at my light this morning, the 5th of April, after the rain.
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Post by jensb on Apr 6, 2013 8:07:46 GMT -8
I thought this species isn't endangered and isn't protected.
If they are protect I am sorry then you are totally right
then it is almost undoable.
Greets Jens
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Post by Adam Cotton on Apr 6, 2013 8:42:29 GMT -8
I thought this species isn't endangered and isn't protected. If they are protect I am sorry then you are totally right then it is almost undoable. Greets Jens Jens, It's not a protection problem, but it's very difficult and expensive to get permits to export live insects from the US. As for exchanging, forget it, as they almost certainly wouldn't allow the livornica into the US alive. Adam |
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Post by jensb on Apr 6, 2013 13:30:10 GMT -8
Ok i didn't know because I already exchanged whitout papers.
This where pupa's no eggs and i didnt had problems.
S. ligustri for d. myron. But ok I get it now.
If the paper/pakket will be checked at the airport they destroy it.
Greets Jens
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Post by Chris Grinter on Apr 6, 2013 13:52:46 GMT -8
Well if you're a US citizen that's caught importing or exporting live insects without paperwork you can get caught up in a whole mess of trouble. Aside from the package being destroyed, you could be fined and your home inspected for further violations. Not to mention your name will be flagged and every package they can find of yours will be inspected, for a long, long time. From what I can find... If you're caught buying and importing wildlife with a value of less than $350 you can be sued in civil court and fined up to $10,000. Over $350 you can be jailed in criminal court and fined up to $20,000 - with a prison sentence up to 5 years. www.aphis.usda.gov/plant_health/permits/organism/butterflies_moths.shtmlKeep in mind these laws apply to shipping live insects ACROSS STATE LINES - not just internationally. |
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Post by jensb on Apr 7, 2013 7:10:25 GMT -8
WTF I never new it is such a problem.
I am happy their are some people in europe that
already have very nice american species but again WOW
thats very extreem those rules for what pupose are these?
Greets Jens
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Post by wollastoni on Apr 7, 2013 11:00:36 GMT -8
This is only for "live" insects.
Insects can be invasive species that can destroy huge ecosystems. US are right to protect themselves.
Personnally I think live insect trade should be far more controlled than it is today...
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Post by evra on Apr 7, 2013 13:05:49 GMT -8
To me, the white lined sphinx is the trashiest of trash moths. I haven't seen an usually high number of them this year though, more like the normal 10-30 per night. But I guess it all depends on what you're used to. Apparently in the southeast it can be common, but nothing like the southwest.
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Post by rjb on Apr 7, 2013 18:32:55 GMT -8
My box turtle loves them. I put aside some of each night's catch and give them to the turtle every day during the summer. A few ten-lined June bugs for crunchiness as well.
Rick
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Post by rayrard on Apr 10, 2013 6:40:32 GMT -8
To me, the white lined sphinx is the trashiest of trash moths. I haven't seen an usually high number of them this year though, more like the normal 10-30 per night. But I guess it all depends on what you're used to. Apparently in the southeast it can be common, but nothing like the southwest. I have yet to encounter one of these in SC for some reason. I'd love this as a trash moth, as opposed to the Macaria aequiferaria, Egira alternans, Hyphantria cunea, and Elonympha. I guess the grass is always greener on the other side ;D |
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Post by admin on Apr 12, 2013 20:32:48 GMT -8
Hi jensb. I would love to do trading over seas to get European sphinx moths but the high cost of permit per vents me from doing so. Collecting eggs of the White Lined Sphinx should be fairly easy. I have heard you can put female in paper bag and she will lay eggs over night. Guess the Sphinx had a good breeding season in the south and are moving north from what is being said. I had 12 at my light this morning, the 5th of April, after the rain. Yes, the females will lay eggs in a paper bag. Good luck on determining the sex of this species. It's not so easy. |
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