Hybrid Saturnia pavonia X Graellsia isabellae

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Hello

www.insectes.org/opie/pdf/2681_pagesdynadocs4f291830cc420.pdf

I came across this PDF to my surprise, as far as I could understand (from my poor poor french) back in 1992 some people did manage to take the hybrid larvaes of G. isabellae and S. pavonia up to the L2 or L3 (?) stage.

So I was wondering, does anyone know if today, 10 years later, did someone ever manage to take it to the end?

Thadeos

[oehlkew]

Thadeos,
Dominique Ades and Robert Lemaitre have provided many images of successful hybridization attempts between Saturniidae for posting on WLSS. They have not provided similar information for a hybridization of
Saturnia pavonia and Graellsia isabellae, so I am assuming that no further progress has been made between those two species.
There have been many successful (adult hybrids) coming from pairings of Graellsia isabellae with at least ten different Actias species.
So far only successful (yielding adult hybrids) hybrids I know of with Saturnia species are within the genus, sometimes between subgenera.

Bill Oehlke

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Hello Bill
Thank you for clarifying my doubts.
Would you happen to know, are there any successful attempts betwen G. isabellae and A. chapae? or G. isabellae and A. rhodopneuma? Also, I heard somewhen that someone managed to produce hybrids of Argema species with Graellsia isabellae? I am very interested on this subject (Saturniidae hybrids), that was one of the reasons for me to join this forum, I'm looking for some more info, after so many years of studying and collecting Saturniidae, I never had opportunity to rear them. I am also considering to get a membership for the WLSS by the way

[oehlkew]

Here is a listing of the hybrids on display on WLSS involving Actias and
Graellsia species. I have none for Argema.

Actias dubernardi male x Actias luna female: hatchling, second instar, fifth instar, male and female, courtesy of Katelyn and Rob Mayo.
Actias gnoma (m) x Actias luna (f), male, female, larvae and cocoons by Robert Zaun and Team.
Actias gnoma (m) x Actias luna (f), male, female, larvae, cocoon and pupae by Dominique Ades.
Actias gnoma gnoma x Actias selene ningpoana by Reinhold Hoge
Actias gnoma gnoma x Actias selene ningpoana male and female by Reinhold Hoge
Actias luna x Actias selene by Robert Lemaitre and team.
Actias luna x Actias selene by Mark Lasko.
Actias luna x Graellsia isabellae by Chris Conlan, Robert Lemaitre and Bob Vuattoux
Actias luna x Graellsia isabellae by Rainer Plontke, Franz Renner and Bob Vuattoux
Actias luna x Actias maenas by Felix Stumpe
Actias luna x Actias sinensis by Alan Marson
Actias maenas x Actias isis by Steve Kohll
Actias maenas x Actias luna by Bob Vuattoux
Actias maenas x Actias luna by Andreas Riekert
Actias selene x Actias artemis aliena by Bob Vuattoux
Actias selene male x Actias artemis female: male, female and all instars,
courtesy of Robert Lemaitre and team
Actias selene male pairing with Argema mittrei female by Bob Vuattoux
Actias sinensis x Actias dubernardi pair and larvae by Franz Renner and Rainer Plontke.
Actias sinensis x Actias dubernardi pair, larvae and cocoon by Robert Lemaitre and team.
Actias sinensis (m) x Actias felicis (f), male, female and larva, courtesy of Robert Vuattoux.
Actias sinensis male x Actias luna female by R. Lemaitre, P. Guivarch and team
Actias sinensis male x Actias gnoma female by R. Lemaitre, P. Guivarch and team
Actias sinensis male x Actias selene female by R. Lemaitre and team

Graellsia isabellae x Actias artemis by Dominique Ades and Bob Vuattoux
Graellsia isabellae x Actias dubernardi larva and prediction by Dominique Ades (part of team)
Hybrid of Graellsia isabellae x Actias dubernardi courtesy of Dominique Adès
Graellsia isabellae x Actias dubernardi larvae and male (eggs from team) courtesy of Rainer Plontke
Graellsia isabellae male x Actias felicis female, courtesy of Robert Lemaitre and team.
Graellsia isabellae galiaegloria x Actias gnoma by hybridization team
Graellsia isabellae m x Actias gnoma f by Robert Lemaitre and Team
Graellsia isabellae x Actias heterogyna by Bob Vuattoux
Graellsia isabellae x Actias isis by Bob Vuattoux
Graellsia isabellae m x Actias maenas f by Robert Lemaitre and Team
Graellsia isabellae x Actias selene by Raymond Cocault
Graellsia isabellae x Actias selene by Felix Stumpe
Graellsia isabellae x Actias sinensis male, larvae and cocoons by Robert Lemaitre and team
Graellsia isabellae x Actias sinensis male and larvae by Horst Kach
Graellsia isabellae x Actias selene larva by Bob Vuattoux
Graellsia isabellae x Actias truncatipennis by Bob Vuattoux

Many of the hybrids are especially beautiful.
Bill Oehlke

[oehlkew]

By coincidence, just after posting the above list, I received an image of a beautiful hybrid of Actias uljanae and Graellsia isabellae, courtesy of
Victor Sinyaev.

Victor has also just sent me images of the following Saturniidae which I just finished posting to WLSS: a male Antheraea rosieri from Sabah, Borneo; Molippa sinyaevorum HT male and AT female, Sierra Siberia, Cochabamba, Bolivia, 2850m, (first time depicted on WLSS); Pseudodirphia svetlanae HT male and AT female, La Paz, Bolivia, (first time depicted on WLSS); Rachesa sinjaevorum HT male and AT female, Bolivia: Cochabamba, (first time depicted on WLSS); Rachesa viksinjaevi HT male, Peru: Junin, (first time depicted on WLSS); Meroleuca viksinayevi (spelling in publication) male from Huanuco, Peru; Automeris viksinjaevi HT male, Ancash, Peru, (first time depicted on WLSS); Eubergia sinjaevorum HT male from Santa Cruz, Bolivia, (first time depicted on WLSS); Hirpida sinjaevorum HT male from Cochabamba, Bolivia, (first time depicted on WLSS); Lonomia sinjaevorum HT male and AT female, Bolivia: Nor Yungas, (first time depicted on WLSS); Lonomia viksinyaevi HT male, Bolivia: Cochabamba, (first time depicted on WLSS).

Most of these are new species described in 2011-2012.

Bill Oehlke

[steve]

Please excuse my ignorance, what is WLSS ?

[vwman]

World's Largest Saturnidae Site

run by the individual in the post above yours

[oehlkew]

WLSS is the abbreviation for World's Largest Saturniidae Site, a private membership site, which I have been working on almost daily for approximately the last 12 years.
Over 1500 worldwide Saturniidae species are now depicted on site, and I continue to work on its development, creating and incorporating files for the most recently described species. This morning I uploaded Victor Sinyaev's beautiful image of a male hybrid Graellsia isabellae and Actias uljanae, and this evening I hope to finish posting Alan's Marson's photos
of Pseudobunaea illustris larvae and Pseudimbrasia deyrollei larvae, both species from Ghana. new foodplants are offered for those species.
Many collectors/breeders/photographers have provided the over 10,000 images that now grace the site, and there are checklists now for almost all countries that have Saturniidae populations.
Lots of rearing articles by myself and members are on site. Members get approximate discount of 10% on sleeves and livestock and first crack at anything new or unusual.
Introduction page is at
www.silkmoths.bizland.com/indexos.htm
Over the years I have spent over $2000.00 purchasing the most up to date and reliable references to support accuracy of site.
Bill Oehlke

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Bill O. -----

I have to say that your site is my 'go to' site for moth reference. It is very thorough, has great data, and the photos are simply awesome. I can't imagine what IDing my moths would be like had I not had such a terrific reference site. I just had to add this after having just used it(your site) to confirm the ID of a moth I'm after. It is better than any book....and I have a bunch.

Thanks Bill O. WLSS is tops

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Bill, Do I have to pay for the membership at WLSS by bank transfer or do you accept paypal? I'm based in Moscow at the moment, ready to get a lifetime membership. PM me with the details you need if there are any.

Thadeos

[oehlkew]

Thadeos,
I have sent you a personal message, but the same information applies to anyone else who might want to register:

You can send a payment of $45.00 US via Paypal to [e-mail]
This is the one-time-life-time (mine; I am 64 and in good health) registration fee. It is $30.00 for students and $30.00 for seniors (65 years of age or older).

You should also send me an email to that same email address, indicating that you will maintain confidentiality of website access and content, i.e.,
you will not post, publish or share access information, nor will you post publish or share images or information from the site. It is for your own personal (immediate family) use.

As soon as I have the payment and your statement regarding confidentiality, I will send you the host URL and your access instructions
with username and password.

Bill Oehlke