lucas
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Post by lucas on Aug 2, 2012 1:49:04 GMT -8
my collection  Attachments:
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Post by thanos on Aug 2, 2012 2:07:17 GMT -8
Nice again ! Do you have also the ssp. parnassicus from N. Greece ? Or the magnificent P. sommeri bureschianus (again from N. Greece) ? I've collected both and, although from gigas parnassicus I haven't found giant specimens, from sommeri bureschianus I've caught 2 females of nearly 60mm...!!!
Thanos
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lucas
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Post by lucas on Aug 2, 2012 2:14:19 GMT -8
Procerus gigas parnassicus - Xanthi and around Ohrid (Macedonia ).
Procerus scabrosus bureschianus I have only one specimen.
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Post by thanos on Aug 2, 2012 2:52:17 GMT -8
Here the 2 giant females of bureschianus (+58 and +57mm) and a big one of 54mm, from my collection (I've posted this again). Attachments:
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lucas
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Post by lucas on Aug 2, 2012 3:07:23 GMT -8
P.Cavazzuti(Monographia del Genre Procerus,1989): female=49-55mm.
Mts.Lekanis?
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Post by thanos on Aug 2, 2012 15:58:14 GMT -8
Yes, my 2 females are record sizes for P. scabrosus bureschianus and thus very rare and impressive. Actually, they are the biggest Procerus I've ever seen/catched, however, for P. gigas, as maximum size is given 60mm (but the biggest specimen of parnassicus I've found is around 54mm). The 58+ female bureschianus will become 59+ if I relax it and open the mandibles..! I measured all 3 females recently very carefully and the smaller is 54mm (55 if mandibles open), and the other 2 are +58 and +57mm (the 57 one has opened mandibles, so this is its full size), - I had measured them before wrongly and thought they were of smaller length. It was one of my most unforgetable collecting times with beetles when I found it (the 58mm, but also the 57mm one as it's a bit shorter but wider ! ) : she was crossing a small forest road quickly, that if I hadn't run to catch it (I spotted it from a distance of 50 meters or more), I would have probably lost it in the grasses ! Not Mts. Lekanis at Kavala, but near Xanthi (Stavroupoli), and Drama. It occurs also on Mts. Lekanis (Xanthi is very close to Kavala, and Drama close to Kavala), but I haven't searched for it there personally. It is rare and hard to find (I've found single specimens, very rarely 2 in one day), - except if you know people who breed the giant forest snails (which bureschianus eat) close to their habitats..( I haven't tried pitfall traps with Procerus, as they all are too far from my home to go twice and check them, -probably they are more useful with duponcheli, as for example on Taygetos is known a quite big population at a not so big area, -possibly the same happens with gigas parnassicus at certain Fagus forests of N. Greece and at the right time..). Thanos |
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