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Post by Deleted on Jun 12, 2012 15:35:24 GMT -8
I understand that sometimes when writing a reply to a message on this forum, it may get wrongly interpreted. But when trying to help someone, why is it they sometimes answer agressively? I admit that i am far from the most knowledgeable person regarding entomology, and learn much from members on here, so please forgive me if i get things wrong. I give in...I'm defeated...I'll no longer answer to any questions or post anything else on this site.
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Post by bandrow on Jun 12, 2012 17:45:40 GMT -8
Stringer,
Hang in there - having anyone drop out of the conversation just reduces the overall value of the site. I think a lot of "disagreements" are simply the result of misinterpretations of the written word. This happens so often now in the "modern media" like texting, e-mail, etc. When one can't physically see the other in the conversation, important cues for normal interaction between people are lost - such as facial expressions, tone of voice, volume or inflection of speech. Then when you add into the equation the diversity of our members' native languages, with many members writing in English as their second language (or 3rd or 4th), the problem gets compounded. Of course, there will always be the individuals that want to attack or contradict anything posted just for the sake of arguing, or self-inflation of ego, but they really are the minority here. I've found that so often in life the person the quickest to argue usually ends up being wrong in the end. The key is for everyone to read... then read again... then carefully craft a response... and then read once more before posting. Hastily written responses can come off as brash or "know-it-all" when they're not meant to be so at all. And when it works, a lively discussion back and forth about any issue having two sides ends up with everyone learning something new.
Cheers!
Bandrow
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Post by Deleted on Jun 12, 2012 20:35:22 GMT -8
Stringer,
Bandrow said it quite eloguently. Do stay and weather the few hard-to-take postings. I've been here for years and have seen/read it all.....'good/bad/ugly', but this site can only benefit from having many members and members who can let comments roll off their backs. Oftentimes, the harsher postees get some pretty tough comebacks from us and sometimes they end up making the person they're 'attacking' look better. In so doing, they kind of create a persona that repels others/readers.
I'm rambling again....sorry. As Bandrow did say..."hang in there".
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Post by africaone on Jun 13, 2012 0:50:55 GMT -8
There are other parameters that come into play. Some members do not speak fluent English (which is not Mother Language), which bring different situations
- posts written with some degree of mind by english speakers are interpreted in the first degree by non english speakers (and inverse) ... with the results one can expect
- Others that are written by non-english speakers are misinterpreted and sometimes they look aggressive (as the posts written by "basic bad English speakers")... unintentionally
Then for all of us that are not fluent English speaker and that tried to do their best ... allow me to apologize for the unintentional disagreement !
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Post by wollastoni on Jun 13, 2012 1:29:36 GMT -8
Except 2 or 3 guys who live in a hostile world, I think this forum is a gentlemen's forum.
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Post by colin12303 on Jun 13, 2012 9:56:52 GMT -8
Yes some people take this all too seriously,it should be enjoyed as a hobby or an interest.
It should not be your 'life',but i suppose there will always be people who get their 'jollies' from trying to put others down.
They need to stop living with their mum,get a girl friend,and most of all get a life.
(The last paragraph by the way is supposed to be a joke)
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Post by simosg on Jun 13, 2012 13:26:33 GMT -8
This is really a gentlemen forum.
Hannes
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Post by admin on Jun 13, 2012 16:08:03 GMT -8
You think people are touchy here? Try the photography forums at www.dpreview.com. A lot of snobbery going on there! If you make a tiny error in your photographic knowledge then beware. They are merciless!  |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 14, 2012 0:34:11 GMT -8
"Except 2 or 3 guys who live in a hostile world, I think this forum is a gentlemen's forum"
I agree, for the most part the vast majority of people on the forum are polite with each other, however there are one or two who have the I know more than you attitude, I'm big you are small kind of thing but you wil find arseholes in any walk of life even in the entomological community, it is up to the rest of us who CAN have a normal conversation with each other to stop the site turning into a sarcasm filled forum wirth nothing of note to contribute at all, dont let the socially retarded minority stop you from enjoying the company of normal human beings, insect collectors are a dying breed as it is.
Dunc
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Post by dertodesking on Jun 14, 2012 13:01:34 GMT -8
I understand that sometimes when writing a reply to a message on this forum, it may get wrongly interpreted. But when trying to help someone, why is it they sometimes answer agressively? I admit that i am far from the most knowledgeable person regarding entomology, and learn much from members on here, so please forgive me if i get things wrong. I give in...I'm defeated...I'll no longer answer to any questions or post anything else on this site. Pete, Like the other guys have said, I think in 99.9% of cases, this is probably down to the fact that this is a fora used by members the world over and many members don't have English as their mother tongue. Like every situation, you'll always get one that "knows best" and wants to argue with everything you say...but the very great majority of times you'll find people friendly and appreciative of any help you, or anyone else, can give. Stick with it and if someone annoys just stick them on the "ignore" list ;D Simon |
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Post by jackblack on Jun 22, 2012 2:42:25 GMT -8
Never say die.
Some great stuff on this forum .
If people ### you , don`t give up stick it into them and maybe they will stop preaching crap/ nonsense .
So like my old boy always says go with the flow , don`t make unnecessary waves , but sometimes its really hard nearly impossible to hold one`s tongue , but I`m learning and suppose getting wiser like the old boy maybe.
But yes communication between different languages cultures are for sure misinterpreted quite often.
Keep going and keep this forum alive is all I can add.
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Post by colin12303 on Jun 22, 2012 9:26:02 GMT -8
Talking about misinterpretation
In the UK we call our private part our 'Old boy' so it seems quite strange someone out there talks to there's(or at least admits it)
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