¡¹Africa liar ,We lost 261USD ¡¹

[kingdomofbeetle]

Be Careful !!!this guy : GOUENE FLORENT , BLE From COTE D'IVOIRE ( Ivory Coast )
E-mail : [e-mail] , [e-mail]
Tel: [phone] & ([phone]
This guy is very smart , he steal E-mail box of Mr.koffi : [e-mail] and he FAKE Mr.koffi and he say he have many stock of Goliathus for sell .then he said he has another New E-mail : [e-mail]

he asked us to pay 87USD for Postage by Money Gram first .We paid for it on 3/28/2012 . then he started to cheat Customs TAX 87USD . OK ! We trust him and We paid 87USD soon on 3/29/2012 .Then he is very BAD Guy ,and he said he lost money on the way . he asked us to pay last 87USD again ! My God ! We just believe him and We just send 87USD on 3/30/2012 finally . Very good ! We lost 261USD (87USD X3 =261USD) on this BAD guy in Africa !!! then he said We will get the parcel on 4/1/2012 for sure ...Today is 4/5/2012 . No Parcel , No Tacking number ,No Reply .Where is Our parcel ? you are really a smart scammer !!!

We hope We can help people of Africa to make money in local market and the world . We can sell beetles from Africa and We will send more money to Africa .

But We fail ...We just lost 261USD and get Nothing again .We think that is Why African can not do long business in the world .

We think there is no one can help people from Africa ....Don't send any money to Africa in advanced . We have many BAD experience in Africa.

Good Luck !

Kingdom of Beetle Taiwan Since 2002
screw-wholesale.myweb.hinet.net/

[thanos]

No,he is not a smart scammer.... Sorry for the money you lost, but..my dear, how in earth is possible for you to believe him, when he told that he lost money on the way...?

[cyware]

It's simple: the actual owner of the email the scammer hijacked was obviously a good dealer so they trusted him. An identity theft case more then anything.

[thanos]

Yes,but a honest dealer never says that he lost money on the way..Even if he really lost them,he recognizes that the loss was his fault and that buyer was Ok, and doesn't ask them again from the buyer.

[cyware]

There are 2 scenarios to be ripped off:

1. Initially honest dealer, several perfect orders then the last one contains crappy stuff (moulded/B quality/whatever) or never comes. The excuses are pathetic: "I have a family you know..."
There are probably many factors causing this; most of the time the dealer is either not serious or he does it on purpose.
2. Downright scammer, does not have any insects at all.


I understand kingdomofbeetle are serious people; the african beetles they sell are a sought after product so no wonder they take high risks in buying the live specimens. And unfortunately when dealing with African/Peruvian people the very few that are serious ask prices in the higher, sometimes absurd range. The rest are simply put crooks.

This is why a good, cheap dealer would worth his weight in gold. These usually don't have Internet access, or they don't speak English. You'll never see their ads here. Most of them are "formed" by large wholesellers, who travel often.


While at it, I know an interesting story: a French went to some African country and trained a young guy at the country side to catch insects. They did this for 2 weeks. This young guy was paid in those two weeks with more he could have possible make in maybe 3 months of hard labour.
Before departing, the French set up everything: he completed several forms at the post office and paid (bribed?) the worker to send the parcels, since the young insect hunter wasn't able to write. He also paid upfront the young hunter for the next two weeks (so he made the equivalent of 6 months in local income), with his word that he will send the package "for sure". He did all he could to insure constant packages. He then returned to Europe.

As the story goes, 2 months later there was no package yet. A simple call at the post office cleared up the things: the young never caught any more insects, but insted he spent all the money on "parties" with the friends and returned to the regular life.

This shows how these people really are: with no vision of future at all; they are like "hit and run" kind of people.

An education issue I guess.

[thanos]

'This is why a good, cheap dealer would worth his weight in gold. These usually don't have Internet access, or they don't speak English. You'll never see their ads here. Most of them are "formed" by large wholesellers, who travel often.'

-True. And then these wholesellers make 1000% profit by selling these insects on ebay or from their sites.

[Adam Cotton]

Thanos,

Somehow I would imagine that the travelling wholesalers would need to make a "1000%" mark-up just to make enough money to cover airfares, expenses and cost of living. As long as people are prepared to buy from them at those prices they will continue travelling to buy the specimens. If it becomes uneconomical they won't bother.

Adam.