Unsuccessful Trading experience with Greg Watson

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Hello everyone,

I would like to write down my unsatisfied personal trading experience with Greg who is an active member in this forum with full name GREGORY WATSON. Emails address: [e-mail].
The trade was not successful, I never received the butterflies neither my payments back till now. Moreover it has been more than one and half year and Mr. Greg even starts to ignore my email since April 2011.

I am sorry I have to say it is a very long story and thanks for all your patience if you can read through the article to the end.

Our trade starts from Sep. 2010.
I made the following order and send the payment to him through Western Union and Sir Greg received the payment at the 2010/09/01.
ripheus 1000 pcs 375.00
didius 200 pcs 600.00
Postage Mad - Malay 40.00
Postage Peru - Malaysia 50.00
Postage Malaysia to China 35.00
Fees Inrena 50.00
TOTAL $1150.00

The problem was caused by the unsuccessful trade from Peru side with Mr. Greg.
So I waited 2 month for him to solve the problem but it seems unpromising and Mr. Greg promised to start refund my money to me if it can’t be solved on 2010/10/30.

All the later on emails was about me asking him when will him be able to pay my money back and Sir Greg keep promising he will do it as soon as possible. I have just pick up two emails for your reference.

And then he sent me the last email in 2011/03/23.
After I expressed I would like to have my money back he was disappeared again. Until few days ago, I was him was replying one member in the forum, then I know he is still active in the business.

I know it wasn’t Mr. Greg’s fault to have this unsuccessful trade, however, I believe as a dealer he should bear this risk. After all, it is his responsibility to get the goods I paid for. I send him the money to purchase the goods since I trusted him will be honest and decent.
However, I was very disappointed he neither refund my money even run form his repsobilities by ignoring my emails.
I believe I have waited long enough to give him a chance to fight for his reputation.
I am not sure whether I will be able get my money back . Now I hope this report can at least give other buyers some pre warming before you do business with him.

I have screen prints for our emails conversations but not sure how can I attach them if any of you request to see or can help in uploading that, I can send you these pictures.

Kind Regards
Dilian

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[wollastoni]

EDIT : yes many people had some issues with Greg Watson.

[mikelock34]

The Peru end of the deal is Hildebrando Rojas Villegas who stole Greg's money along with tens of thousands of dollars of other people's money. Stay away from Hildebrando. He is the worst crook that I have ever encountered in the insect trade. He continues to steal from buyers.

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Dec 6, 2011 0:41:57 GMT -8 wollastoni said:

I never had problems with Greg who is very helpful.
I hope you will solve your problem with him.

Thanks for your reply. I know he has a very good reputation in this forum and this is the main reason I trust him in the beginning.
This is our first coopeartion and I have to say I am very disappointed.

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Dec 6, 2011 2:11:22 GMT -8 mikelock34 said:

The Peru end of the deal is Hildebrando Rojas Villegas who stole Greg's money along with tens of thousands of dollars of other people's money. Stay away from Hildebrando. He is the worst crook that I have ever encountered in the insect trade. He continues to steal from buyers.

Thanks very much for your information. I will keep a note for this name.
As you said, I know it is not Greg's fault that this deal is not successful, but it is indeed not right to constantly ignore my emails. This problem has last for more than one years, .I even sent him an email the day before yesterday but he hasn't responsed yet. It is a pitty that a lot of buyers lost money from the bad dealer in Peru, however, I still would like to have my money back after all, I go through Mr. Greg because I needed protection.

[Adam Cotton]

Greg is away at the moment, and has no internet access. He should be back home in a few days.

Adam.

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Dec 10, 2011 9:14:41 GMT -8 Adam Cotton said:

Greg is away at the moment, and has no internet access. He should be back home in a few days.

Adam.

Thanks a lot for your information. Thanks

[krupten]

Well - I am back - albeit for a very short time - and then I return to Thailand to do more research and training. (NOTE and PLEASE READ THIS - WHEN I AM IN THAILAND I AM ON A FOREST RESSERVE AND ONLY CONNECT WHEN I CAN - THE ONLY WAY FOR ME TO REALLY GET WORK DONE THERE IS TO DO IT SO EMAILS ARE SECONDARY SORRY. I AM LOOKING HOWEVER FOR BLOOD TRANSFUSIONS AS THE LEECHES IN THIS AREA ARE HORRENDOUS - AND TO ME - WHEN YOU GET MORE THAN 20 - 30 AT ONE TIME IT IS TOO MANY!!)

I remember this now - sorry it had completely slipped my mind but business and work keep me MORE than hopping to be honest. Why did you not email me??? At least to remind me (or you can send garlic as that helps to restore some degree of memory retention and setience!) I am really sorry - but I have so much on my mind I just DONT remember certain things and emails are done on a page to page thing ( I have over 30000 emails in the past 18 months) so I am inundated. Here are my emails - contact me and we will sort this out - krupten01@yahoo and krupten@ gmail - and yes Mike is right - Hildebrando is a thief - and I think spends to much time enjoying the erythroxylum novagratinum in Peru. Yes I agree I recieved your money and YES though others may be theives I AM NOT. I will eat it as that is the risk in the game - but more has to be done to vet those who are in the is business of subterfuge.

LATER I wish to announce some things here - as I see certain "rumblings" and as the minds of most people LOVE to have a good mystery - sometimes the explanations are a let down. There are two kinds of replies - excuses and reasons. One is a deflection aimed at placation and the other is holding your hands up and saying - I did it YUP - guilty as charged but it was done without malice. LETS MAKE IT RIGHT. Cheers Greg

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I remember this now - sorry it had completely slipped my mind but business and work keep me MORE than hopping to be honest. Why did you not email me??? At least to remind me (or you can send garlic as that helps to restore some degree of memory retention and setience!) I am really sorry - but I have so much on my mind I just DONT remember certain things and emails are done on a page to page thing ( I have over 30000 emails in the past 18 months) so I am inundated. Here are my emails - contact me and we will sort this out - krupten01@yahoo and krupten@ gmail - and yes Mike is right - Hildebrando is a thief - and I think spends to much time enjoying the erythroxylum novagratinum in Peru. Yes I agree I recieved your money and YES though others may be theives I AM NOT. I will eat it as that is the risk in the game - but more has to be done to vet those who are in the is business of subterfuge.

LATER I wish to announce some things here - as I see certain "rumblings" and as the minds of most people LOVE to have a good mystery - sometimes the explanations are a let down. There are two kinds of replies - excuses and reasons. One is a deflection aimed at placation and the other is holding your hands up and saying - I did it YUP - guilty as charged but it was done without malice. LETS MAKE IT RIGHT. Cheers Greg[/quote]

Dear Sir,

I am glad I reached you eventually, I have sent you plenty emails but I guess you have too many to see and to remember.
Since I have already waited over an year, I believe I have the patience to see as you said "get everything right".

Thanks and Merry Christmas.
Dilian

[kirkwilliams]

I have had alot of correspondence with Greg and any misunderstanding is because he is out in the field collecting. He is an honest hardworking man. I hope things get sorted.

[krupten]

well Dillian if you have sent any emails - there are none in the past 750 last month - so my old one is not responding to you. TRY [e-mail] and see if that works. BUT I am off to Thailand next week - training and working on a database for lifehistories then off to Indonesia shortly after I return so IF you cannot get much from me from now til April - don't be surprised - just be aware I have informed you of this. The work in thailand is important as it is with a MAJOR University and Museological Institution both extremely well known and respected.

Cheers and happy New Year 2012 and dont worry we will straighten this out before the end of civilization! Best ones - Cheers Greg

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Jan 5, 2012 12:20:21 GMT -8 krupten said:

well Dillian if you have sent any emails - there are none in the past 750 last month - so my old one is not responding to you. TRY [e-mail] and see if that works. BUT I am off to Thailand next week - training and working on a database for lifehistories then off to Indonesia shortly after I return so IF you cannot get much from me from now til April - don't be surprised - just be aware I have informed you of this. The work in thailand is important as it is with a MAJOR University and Museological Institution both extremely well known and respected.

Cheers and happy New Year 2012 and dont worry we will straighten this out before the end of civilization! Best ones - Cheers Greg

Dear Sir,

Thanks for the updated information, so I will send you emails to your new address, thanks, and happy new year.

Regards
Dilian

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Jan 5, 2012 0:06:06 GMT -8 kirkwilliams said:

I have had alot of correspondence with Greg and any misunderstanding is because he is out in the field collecting. He is an honest hardworking man. I hope things get sorted.

Thanks for your reply Sir, I have been reached Mr. Greg already, I also hope the problem will be solved eventually. Thanks