|
|
Post by hewi on Oct 25, 2011 14:07:06 GMT -8
Have you seen the Urania sloanus in ebay France for 25.000 EUR ? The item no. is 160671699294  Manfred |
|
|
|
|
|
Post by saturniidave on Oct 25, 2011 15:59:54 GMT -8
Yes, I know the guy who is selling it. it is way overpriced!
|
|
|
|
Post by lepidofrance on Oct 25, 2011 16:42:13 GMT -8
Somebody knows how many samples of U. sloanus are known in museums and collections ?  |
|
|
|
Post by simosg on Oct 26, 2011 9:48:59 GMT -8
Yes, I know the guy who is selling it. it is way overpriced! But shipping is for free! Hannes |
|
|
|
Post by dertodesking on Oct 26, 2011 12:47:42 GMT -8
Blimey...25,000 euros I'll take two (not). Simon |
|
|
|
Post by nomihoudai on Oct 26, 2011 12:54:02 GMT -8
Maybe he bought it for 25000€ and simply wants his money back ?  |
|
|
|
|
|
Post by lepidofrance on Oct 26, 2011 13:10:38 GMT -8
I would buy only a couple, female & male. On the other hand, to help the poor collectors, I can sell for only one euro Urania leilus samples. Suffice to spray them with a little orange ink to adorn his collection of superb sloanus!  |
|
|
|
Post by prillbug2 on Oct 26, 2011 16:12:50 GMT -8
Personally, I'd rather go there and find it myself, if it were possible.
Jeff Prill
|
|
ckswank
Full Member
Posts: 239
Country: USA
|
Post by ckswank on Oct 26, 2011 20:29:36 GMT -8
But just think of the eBay Bucks you'll earn if you buy it! LOL
Charlie
|
|
|
|
Post by saturniidave on Oct 27, 2011 18:39:26 GMT -8
Jeff, it is extinct, or presumably so as it has not been seen since 1967, so getting it yourself is not an option.
Personally I think his finger slipped when he was writing the price, he added two extra noughts to it!
I offered him $200 and he refused.
|
|
|
|
Post by prillbug2 on Oct 27, 2011 21:27:57 GMT -8
That's why I said if it were possible, Dave. I don't care about eBay bucks. I think he's just money hungry. If you go into the mountains in Jamaica and look carefully, maybe the possibility exists that one might be found. After all, we really don't know the population sizes of insects, so saying that it's extinct is a huge unknown. Isolated populations can exist. Maybe no one has tried to track them down, since extinction seems to be the theory.
Jeff Prill
|
|
|
|
Post by lepidofrance on Oct 28, 2011 0:23:46 GMT -8
"Personally, I'd rather go there and find it myself, if it were possible." "It is extinct, or presumably so as it has not been seen since 1967" Quoted from the page : www.nhm.ac.uk/nature-online/species-of-the-day/biodiversity/loss-of-habitat/urania-sloanus/conservation/index.htmlConservation status Urania sloanus is extinct, the species being last seen between1894 -1895 (Lewis, 1944; Perkins, 1944; Lees and Smith, 1991). Two beautiful specimens (one of which illustrated on first page) are known in Italian collections labelled 1908 and collected in Jamaica by 'local collectors', but it is not certain if this really represents the collection date (Vinciguerra, 2009). The implication that Andrey Avinoff documented the species in the 1930s in Jamaica is misleading. Avinoff specimens were probably acquired from old collections from the mid 1800’s (J.E. Rawlins, pers.comm.). Surveys of O. triandra in Jamaica need to be carried out to see: what coastal Omphalea populations remain (a coastal population remains at Dolphin Head: A. Kawakita, pers. comm..) whether the plants have been colonised by apparently immigrant Urania, such as ones recorded at light by Lewis, 1945 (representing either Urania fulgens or Urania poeyi (Lees and Smith, 1991) or from the University of West Indies in 1987 (see also www.mbarnes.force9.co.uk/jamaicamoths/images2/urapoe.htm)Threats Urania sloanus is almost certainly extinct, its demise thought by Lees and Smith (1991) to be due to four possible factors: loss of host plants, that might include Omphalea diandra, a plant once reported from Jamaica (Lees and Smith, 1991) extreme population cyclicity habitat destruction possibly cyclones It cannot be established if mass clearance of lowland forest or merely of coastal forest led to its demise, but this factor alone seems unlikely because substantial tracts of lowland forest with Jamaican cobnut remain on limestone. Trends The moth became increasingly rare in the early 1890's with years passing between sightings (Townend, 1893), the last by schoolboys in 1894 -1895 (Lewis, 1944).
|
|
ckswank
Full Member
Posts: 239
Country: USA
|
Post by ckswank on Oct 28, 2011 8:24:19 GMT -8
The reference to eBay Bucks was a joke!
Charlie
|
|
|
|
Post by nomihoudai on Oct 28, 2011 8:35:32 GMT -8
of course he refused 200$, I think with such a high starting price he will have to pay more than 200$ to ebay even when the item does not get sold. At least somebody earned some money with the add |
|
|
|
Post by saturniidave on Oct 28, 2011 17:03:52 GMT -8
I agree Claude, that was a bad move on so many levels!  |
|
