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Post by timoinsects on Sept 27, 2011 12:48:56 GMT -8
when did insects collection beigan as a hobby in Europe?
1900's? 1800's? 1700's?
initially insects as a scientice branch the old entomologists collected them for scientific resarch. but when did insects collection as hobby or a commerical deal? and from what country(s)?
any of you know this knowledge? ;D
how about in Japan?
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Post by nomihoudai on Sept 27, 2011 12:57:56 GMT -8
Insect collecting and animal collecting was very popular during all these centuries until 1900. It is called the victorian age.
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Post by anthony on Sept 28, 2011 13:20:14 GMT -8
I recently purchased a book "The Aurelian Legacy" about British Butterflies and collectors and they show some from 1692 til 1695 not terrible shape for their age. Perhaps they are the oldest on record.
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Post by timoinsects on Sept 28, 2011 14:18:59 GMT -8
how about being as a commercial trade initally?
so what places did the dealers sold their insects in? street shop? at home? at that time of course no internet.
back to victorian age,the entomologists collected insects in wild what were the methods they preserving insects(not butterfly/moths)? cardboard? but the transparent paper were not born yet! cotton or paper wraped?
sorry for so many questions but just be curious.
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Post by africaone on Sept 28, 2011 23:19:38 GMT -8
that started well before Linné. men travelled to catch any kind of organism and were "sponsorised" to do that. The collection is something done very early in the humanity and probably that shells, insects, stones and so kind were the first to be collected. Men like that chaman, marabout, etc. very curious of the nature may be the first proffessional collectors. Not so far the first mecynorhinella was a point of attraction in the Bank's office. proffesional like we know today (with catalogue) develloped hardly with the nomenclature and the need to cense everything. In Japan, collection is very well structured. Nothing to do with what happens in Europe. difficult for me to explain in english. I know that by a friend that has been introduced in the most closed Japanese circles and that was invited to some events normally reserved for Japanese. not far a mystical atmosphere. Joke : what is the only words that Japanese dealers know in insect fair ? aaaaaaaaaaaaooooooorrrrrhhh ... discount ??
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Post by anthony on Oct 3, 2011 6:11:57 GMT -8
The book I mentioned states butterflies were mounted between strips of mica, much like pressed flowers others were pressed into pages of books. The early meetings were in coffee houses where business was conducted.This was before 1742 when the formally created the Society of Aurelians and launched formal entomology in England.
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Post by wollastoni on Oct 3, 2011 6:19:30 GMT -8
"Joke : what is the only words that Japanese dealers know in insect fair ? aaaaaaaaaaaaooooooorrrrrhhh ... discount ?? "
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