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Post by thanos on Sept 10, 2011 22:44:25 GMT -8
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Post by lepidofrance on Sept 11, 2011 2:17:09 GMT -8
 Dear Thanos, kaly mera ! we saw Hipparchia autonoe in Kyrgyzistan. As far I know (using the the Tolman & Lewington's book), this species does not fly in Western Europe ! The picture is from our page : Papillons de Kirghizie : www.lepido-france.fr/2010/10/papillons-de-kirghizie/  Attachments:
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Post by lepidofrance on Sept 11, 2011 2:22:36 GMT -8
The upper side of H. autonoe, from Kekemeren, western Kyrgyzistan. Warm regards, JM Attachments:
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Post by saturniidave on Sept 11, 2011 7:08:37 GMT -8
I wish I had a Pound for every time I have seen this sort of thing, I would be a rich man.
I used to contact the sellers and try to point out their errors but I found that most told me that 'An expert friend' had told them that this is the correct name; I was wrong and did not know what I was talking about; or they just ignored me. Very occasionally one would thank me for pointing out the error which was either sold to them wrongly or they mad a genuine mistake, but this rarely happened so I just gave up bothering in the end.
Dave
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Post by thanos on Sept 11, 2011 13:56:05 GMT -8
Dear Jean-Marc kalispera sas !,
Very nice photos as always ! Yes, H.autonoe in Europe occurs only in SE part (the nominate subspecies),but not at all in Greece ! In Kirghizstan,you found the ssp.orchomenus.
Dave,right,most of the times I also accepted the behaviour that you described,so this is the reason I stopped contacting to point out mistakes,and posted here better.
Thanos
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Post by africaone on Sept 11, 2011 22:41:25 GMT -8
there are dozens of such errors on ebay, in insectfair and in pricelists. It is a good way to buy rare things that are listings as common ones Do you also contact the guy in such cases ?  (nothing to do with contrary ;D, my time is more precious than to try to explain such "mistakes"and help someone who in any case not listen to you anyway !) Thierry |
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Post by wollastoni on Sept 12, 2011 0:05:49 GMT -8
Yes I had the same problem with a Chinese dealer who sells Delias lattivita formosana from Sichuan (instead of Taiwan)... It is a problem as lattivita from Sichuan are very common (worth 5/10€) and rather rare from Taiwan (worth 70€).
I told him many times he was wrong... but he keeps on advertising some D.l.formosana from Sichuan.
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Post by Khalid Fadil on Sept 12, 2011 0:22:41 GMT -8
I'm not even certain some of my own specimens are correctly labelled... Some species are just so hard to determine!  |
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Post by wollastoni on Sept 12, 2011 1:29:05 GMT -8
No problem with mis/undetermined specimens Khalid.
Just a problem with people who do not change their identification on Ebay despite they have been informed of their error.
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Post by Khalid Fadil on Sept 12, 2011 4:00:09 GMT -8
Yes sir, Mr. Delias!
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