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Post by nomihoudai on Aug 25, 2011 10:29:17 GMT -8
For lepidoptera there is two mounting styles of the wings. 'English style' which uses flat boards and mounts the lep flat or with angled boards where the wing has some degree upwards ( usually about 8° I think ).
I wanted to ask what are you opinions on the matter and what type do you use ?
Flat type has the following plus points in my eyes:
- you can make board cheap yourself
- if you collect series you can put the specimen better one under the other
I know we discussed the topics already some times but I was thinking about switching now and would like to know if I am wrong in any point there and if there is bad experiences with either style I was not thinking of.
Thx for any answer, your opinion is much appreciated.
p.S. Please also include opinions on Heterocera because that is what I mostly collect.
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Post by starlightcriminal on Aug 25, 2011 10:48:57 GMT -8
Flat is my only method. I think the angled is maybe people liking the impression of the butterfly in flight but in terms of viewing, storage, spacing, etc. etc. it is far more practical and ultimately more aesthetic to pin mount flat. You get a better view, you can fit more in a tiny space, all the things you mentioned already. I would not switch personally. I can't really think of any advantage to angled wings but maybe that's because I don't "like" it either.
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Post by prillbug2 on Aug 25, 2011 12:25:15 GMT -8
Both. Jeff Prill
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Post by nomihoudai on Aug 25, 2011 12:37:43 GMT -8
Do you randomly switch or do you use them for specific situations ? When yes, what conditions ? I looked trough my coleltion and was thinking that flat is the way to go for butterflies, but the moth look absolutely fine with the angled wings and I fear they might look extremely droppy with flat type boards.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 25, 2011 14:52:42 GMT -8
I do both, but.....
usually angled very slightly.
Why???
When I was younger, the now passed on Dr. Lee Miller(FLA) Allyn Museum explained to me that the slight angle allows for ever-so-minute drooping that occurs. When this does happen, the specimen appears flat.
When one mounts flat, any drooping results in the specimen looking 'drooped'(lower than flat/90 degreee angle). I have to stress that the angle is very slight.
When I look at my angle-mounted specimens, they appear flat because the angle is so small. I have seen some boards that are too angled and the result is that 'upward' look which I do not like.
I have seen nicely presented collections with both types. This, like so many other things in the hobby, is up to the tastes/preferences of the individual.
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Post by homard on Aug 25, 2011 16:52:20 GMT -8
My boards are angled slightly, the result is that the specimens look virtually flat. Bill explained above, why.
Alexei
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Post by nomihoudai on Aug 25, 2011 21:33:11 GMT -8
I may be wrong wtih this now but dropping wings in butterflies is not an issue with me. The wings of a butterfly never drop down due to humidity or improper setting. If your room is too humid or you took it off too soon from the board the wings will move upwards because that is how the muscles are made! Droppy wings are results of specimen being infected by mold destroying the muscles. I may be wrong but this is my opinion on droppy wings based on thousands of specimen I have seen.
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Post by t18 on Aug 26, 2011 9:52:02 GMT -8
Hi,
I always mount my butterflies flat, I've never experienced the wings dropped (except for some Arctiidae). When I was younger I used to mount on a small angle and I experienced that sometimes the wings moved upwards. Then the specimen looked really bad and I had to mount them again.
Further I found flat specimens nicer looking, but thats just personal offcourse!
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Post by prillbug2 on Aug 26, 2011 12:59:27 GMT -8
I've covered this in the old forum, earlier. Just search for it.
Jeff Prill
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Post by nomihoudai on Aug 30, 2011 10:53:33 GMT -8
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Post by starlightcriminal on Sept 2, 2011 5:27:24 GMT -8
I have never had trouble with a single wing drooping except for specimens I collected when I was less than 10 years old and was not patient enough to let them dry thoroughly before storing. Then it was a mix of both upward and downward reflexing wings. Many of my specimens are plenty old now and are still perfectly flat.
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Post by Khalid Fadil on Sept 4, 2011 8:29:08 GMT -8
All of my specimens are initially mounted flat. My spreading boards are just layers of Styrofoam I put together. Although, if one was to look at my collection, they'll see all three styles: Flat, drooped, and upward-angled.
I'm not sure why, but I do believe all this naturally happened as the specimens dried over the years.
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