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Post by lucanusalan on Jun 29, 2011 11:57:17 GMT -8
I currently have 3 L2 and 1 L1 larvae right now. I heard that Goliathus often die before pupation. Does this apply to G. albosignatus as well?
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Post by prillbug2 on Jun 29, 2011 13:53:39 GMT -8
I never tried it. But I heard they come back as vampires. Seriously, I think that you probably have to do about the same as any other species of Cetoniinae. But, of course, use discernment and modify anything that might be going wrong. Jeff Prill
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Post by antroherpon on Jun 30, 2011 7:16:42 GMT -8
Breeding of goliathus (Argyrophegges and Fornassinius, too) is very difficult and it needs a lot of work. I believe I can help you but if you do not have experiences with beetle breeding I doubt that you will do it. If you can breed Amaurodes and Megalorrhina than you can try Goliathus. If you can go through pupation phase by Ch. kraatzi than you can do it by Goliathius as well. There are many problems that you need solve. First is with food. Goliathius in L3 are almost completely carnivor. If you will not feed them well than they will be not enough strong for pupating. But this is the smallest problem. Bigger is how to manage "exploding mites" by this type of feeding. Than you need go through "walking phase" And when you have coccoons it is very difficult manage them. sometimes I make it sucesfully, sometimes not. This time I will try something very special. Btw, do you not want exchange some against my Goliathus goliathus and orientalis (regius and cacicus are not in breeding anywhere in Europe now as far I know.)
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Post by lucanusalan on Jun 30, 2011 19:14:46 GMT -8
Breeding of goliathus (Argyrophegges and Fornassinius, too) is very difficult and it needs a lot of work. I believe I can help you but if you do not have experiences with beetle breeding I doubt that you will do it. If you can breed Amaurodes and Megalorrhina than you can try Goliathus. If you can go through pupation phase by Ch. kraatzi than you can do it by Goliathius as well. There are many problems that you need solve. First is with food. Goliathius in L3 are almost completely carnivor. If you will not feed them well than they will be not enough strong for pupating. But this is the smallest problem. Bigger is how to manage "exploding mites" by this type of feeding. Than you need go through "walking phase" And when you have coccoons it is very difficult manage them. sometimes I make it sucesfully, sometimes not. This time I will try something very special. Btw, do you not want exchange some against my Goliathus goliathus and orientalis (regius and cacicus are not in breeding anywhere in Europe now as far I know.) I feed mine with dog foods and they love it I don't know about managing coccoons for this species so I guess that will be the biggest problem right now. Thank ypu for the reply. Unfortunately, I can't do exchange.
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Post by antroherpon on Jul 1, 2011 5:14:49 GMT -8
Hm, they love it but experiences have shown that feeding with something where are proteins bellow 50% usually result in not enough larvae for pupating. Therefore cat and ferret food is better. However ideal is feed with "natural close" food and this are insects proteins. No problem, in next generation when you will do it we can make some exchange...
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Post by prillbug2 on Jul 1, 2011 14:48:47 GMT -8
My reference to them coming back as vampires is a reference to them being carnivorous. But I guess that no one understood my humor. Jeff Prill
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Post by alandmor on Dec 17, 2011 8:32:55 GMT -8
Hm, they love it but experiences have shown that feeding with something where are proteins bellow 50% usually result in not enough larvae for pupating. Therefore cat and ferret food is better. However ideal is feed with "natural close" food and this are insects proteins. No problem, in next generation when you will do it we can make some exchange... OK, now I'm curious. What insect protein source do wild Goliathus species feed on?
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Post by krischan on Dec 27, 2011 4:54:06 GMT -8
crikets/ mealworm
however, in my opinion, dog/ cat food is more desired as the alive protein source attracts mites
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