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Post by boghaunter1 on Jul 16, 2020 16:22:56 GMT -8
1st defective unit mailed 18 May & rec'd 06 June. 2nd defective unit shipped 08 June & rec'd 23 June. Both defective units shipped back together 29 June. Both units arrived in Ohio 13 July & went unclaimed. Delay in period 23-29 June I tried to convince L.K., on this forum, to send me funds to ship both defective units back together...unsuccessfully... I finally gave in pure frustration & broke down 29 June & pd. $105.63 CAD (=$77.00 USD) to ship both items back to L.K.. Time between arrival & return of 1st unit 06-29 June = 23 days Time between arrival & return of 2nd unit 23-29 June = 6 days.
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Post by boghaunter1 on Jul 16, 2020 9:22:06 GMT -8
Please pay up L.K.. Chuck has bowed out. At this point get the money to me in any quick way you can. ONLY after the money is in my bank account can this "travesty" of a thread be deleted... your play.
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Post by boghaunter1 on Jul 16, 2020 7:06:57 GMT -8
Pay me directly with PayPal...takes 2 minutes. Why involve a 3rd party? So simple...
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Post by boghaunter1 on Jul 16, 2020 5:25:36 GMT -8
It was you MR. LEROY C. KOEHN who originally brought this to this open public forum. When I went into complete detail right from 06 March to now about my endless troubles with you... you could not/would not refute anything I stated because I am the one telling the truth.
I did everything humanly possible to bring this "travesty", as you now call it, to and end, including shipping your defective junk back to you at my own expense.
Koehn... you blame everybody else... the postal systems, customs, myself... but absolutely refuse to take any personal responsibility (YOU sent me 2 defective units in a row....obviously poor quality control/poor workmanship). This "travesty" was STARTED BY YOU! You never expected to get such a strong response back.... you quietly deleted the originally posting falsely accusing me of being a THIEF & even stated that you regretted bringing this to the forefront on this Insectnet.com forum. In addition you twice apologized for subjecting other members to all this bullcrap & tried to get the moderators to delete this entire thread when things began blowing up in your face!
Just return my money (I pd. you "in good faith"with Paypal)… You have in Trehopr1's words ""after reading todays posts it is painfully clear Leptraps NEVER had any intention of returning your money or of compromising in this matter. He knew the faulty lights were on their way back to him. He knows that you paid an additional $77 bucks to make sure they would arrive without doubt or question. He CHOSE to not answer the notices he surely received from the USPS. So, now who is the "Thief amongst us" ? SO SIMPLE A SOLUTION & IT LIES IN YOUR HANDS KOEHN... refund my money immediately (you have a Paypal acct.)....I don't care how...just DO IT!! & this "travesty" will go away.
& pray for your own salvation LEROY. I live by this rule "do unto others as you would have them do unto you"... Treat others FAIRLY & they will respond in kind.
Thank you Trehopr1, Exoticimports for graphic visuals & offer to act as financial intermediary & to Yorky for " I really feel for boghaunter with this. He clearly has done everything humanly possible to resolve the matter only to receive excuse after excuse. Leroy you have not come out of this covered in glory. NOT COVERED IN GLORY INDEED! Thanks also to all those other members who privatey related their troubles with Koehn to me.
PAY UP KOEHN... It is your responsibility as an honest businessman to refund a customer's money when things go bad... in this case a complete train wreck...
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Post by boghaunter1 on Jul 15, 2020 20:37:40 GMT -8
Yes... the return shipping label, was printed by you & included with your 2nd shipment to be used to return both your defective units together (probably forgot). I don't have a clue what the rest of your the 1st paragraph means?? Anyone else?
Typical L.K. behavior.. bugs out, yet again, when faced with irrefuteable facts; this now is the 4th time you have said you are done... leave me with no workable item & over $400.00 CAD in the hole. Does your business license grant you the right to steal?? ... all from a God fearing man... the irony is astounding.
Anyone? What am I supposed to do now? Moderators? Wollastoni? Adam?
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Post by boghaunter1 on Jul 15, 2020 16:15:25 GMT -8
?? I used your own computer printed return label, supplied with the 2nd defective light unit, which I rec'd 23 June 2020. I wrote, in black marker, on the outside of the package "Return to Sender for Refund" You, L.K. are the one who sent the units to me... you are the "Sender". Why in the world would I want the package sent to myself...for a refund??
So just that I get this straight? My return package with your 2 defective collecting lights is actually,right now, close to Aurora,Ohio?.. in Cleveland? The same package that I spent $105.63 CAD of my own money to return to you for a refund? And it is right now on it's way back to Canada?! This is the same package that you refused to give me a refund for until you got it back! WHY DID YOU NOT HAVE IT REROUTED TO AURORA as Chuck suggested?
This looks like nothing more than yet another unexplainable ploy to avoid/delay refunding my money! You are, Mr.Keroy Loehn, one of the most slippery characters I have ever had the misfortune of dealing with.
If that package ends up back at my doorstep I sure as H_ll won't be paying the return postage that will be assessed to me by the USPS. I have endured 4.5.months of frustration & unending runarounds from you...what is going on Leroy??
And by the way no more of your religious, self-righteous preaching! I'm pretty sure making false accusations against someone is also a serious sin. Your head may be lost in the clouds sitting so far up on that high horse of yours, but it doesn't make you any more closer to God than the rest of us! Only God will judge... certainly not you.
All I know at this point is that I have no working collectig light (which I no longer want!) & no money refund... nothing after 4.5 months & 50+ completely wasted attempts (phone calls,texts, emails, posts at insectnet.com etc.) to solve this simple transaction! Who is the real THIEF here?...& all this over a little collecting light??
UTTERLY BEWILDERED IN CANADA
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Post by boghaunter1 on Jul 15, 2020 9:32:54 GMT -8
Thank you exoticimports for trying to clarify & get through to L.K.. Being the Internationally Famous Businessman with 30 yrs. experience as Leroy claims he is... he should have already known how to retrieve a misdirected package...
By the way Leptraps ever heard of a common, good business practice called...The No Questions Asked, NO HASSLE REFUND? Getting a refund from L.K. is like trying to pull teeth from an angry T-rex... just can't be done!
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Post by boghaunter1 on Jul 14, 2020 18:40:05 GMT -8
Leroy I just sent you TWO additional photos of the actual return package to your AOL email. I changed the "Return for Replacement" on exterior of package to "Return for Refund" just before mailing it on 29 June.2020. I want a full cash refund ONLY. Don't know what else to do...
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Post by boghaunter1 on Jul 14, 2020 18:29:58 GMT -8
Tracking number works just fine...I just checked before posting this...same result..."Item being returned to sender"
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Post by boghaunter1 on Jul 14, 2020 15:57:54 GMT -8
Routing number is as stated on receipt: 224819.540692. How much more "evidence" do you need Leroy??
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Post by boghaunter1 on Jul 14, 2020 15:43:40 GMT -8
I just emailed you twice at your AOL email acct. with photos of both of my Canada Post invoices. Yet Again the tracking number is EM045675745CA. Go to www.canadapost.ca to track number... see results for 13 July 2020.
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Post by boghaunter1 on Jul 14, 2020 11:39:37 GMT -8
Nomihoudi on 02 July 2020 posted "Leroy, stop posting in this thread".
"The units are already on their way to you, using the shipping number EM045675745CA. Reimburse JK his money of purchase and the shipping costs (total $314.95 USD) through PayPal once you have received them". THANK YOU NOUMIHOUDI... JK.
Leptraps response on same day, "Thank you, I will do so."
Checked tracking this mourning... latest update as of yesterday 13 July 2020: "10:58 AM, Item was unclaimed by recipient (L.K.). Item being returned to sender (myself, J.K.), 60688, USA.
There you have it! I waited 4.5 months, received 2 defective collecting units, had to pay return shipping costs myself (Leroy refused to pay me for their return) & now my return package was unclaimed by L.K. & is now being returned to me. I have never had this kind of runaround with any seller....EVER!
PLEASE... Leroy C. Koehn of Leptraps LLC of Aurora, OHIO... refund all the money YOU OWE ME... "$314.95 USD by Paypal.
I just cannot understand (as many other members also)… that the longer you, Mr. Koehn, delay my refund, the worst it reflects on your business & especially on your questionable business practises. I will not allow this thread to be deleted until I get my full refund. I think many potential customers, following this absurd situation, will have lingering doubts/2nd thoughts about you & your business...
J. K.
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Post by boghaunter1 on Jun 29, 2020 20:04:04 GMT -8
Go ahead Leroy...you started this personal attack on me...your defective collecting units are on their way back to you as we speak. So simple.. refund all my money as fully documented here online. It is your responsibility to pay for return shipping of defective items & either replace the items or refund my money. I want my money back as explained... so simple. I have contacted wollastoni for advice as what to do with you. To see you removed permanently from this forum is what I now want as well... You have over $300.00 USD of my money & I have nothing... you are the same thing you called me... a common thief. All along I still don't know... what exactly did I steal?? You will soon have your defective units back & I will have nothing...who is the real thief??
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Post by boghaunter1 on Jun 29, 2020 16:46:08 GMT -8
Hi kevink,
Simple question...can you ,or anyone else, make sense of L.K.'s last conflicting, bizarre posting? Your Opinion? I'm out over $300.00 USD... I am at my wits end...
John K.
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Post by boghaunter1 on Jun 29, 2020 16:11:08 GMT -8
What is going on with you Leroy? This is completely bizarre! Read my last posting! AT MY OWN EXPENSE, both of your defective collecting light units have just been mailed away this very morning 29 June 2020 & should arrive around the 7th of July . I laid out everything in a clear transparent manner. I honestly don't know how to make the facts any more clearer or more understandable to you! Oh Lord... please is there anybody out there that can talk some sense into this man? His son, his friends, who ever.... I am appealing to anyone who is close & can get Leroy to understand? His last posting here makes ZERO sense. This last posting is a prime example of the run around I have been getting for the last 4 months. Leroy is clearly delusional?... or drunk?.... & apparently so confused right now he hasn't a clue what is going on. Quote from L.K.'s last post "I have ask is the return of the deffective Collecting Light Units. I will pay the return shipment." (I, John Kozial, have just sent his return package away with Tracking number EMo45675745CAI this morning!) Only two lines further down L.K. says, Quote, "Mr. Kozial, keep it all. I have better things to do with my time." "Again Mr. Kozial, keep it all." WHAT? Completely conflicting posts in the same message! First he asks me to return the "deffective" Collecting Light Units & he will pay return shipping & then repeats twice "keep it all" LEROY THE 2 DEFECTIVE COLLECTING LIGHT UNITS HAVE ALREADY BEEN SHIPPED THIS MORNING, 29 JUNE 2020, AT MY OWN EXPENSE OF $77.45 USD! HOW IN GOD'S NAME CAN I "keep it all", "keep it all" AFTER THE DEFECTIVE LIGHTS HAVE ALREADY BEEN SHIPPED BACK TO YOU AS EXPLAINED THIS MORNING??LEROY, HERE IS MY REPEAT POSTING OF THIS MORNINGS MESSAGE: Leroy C. Koehn of Leptraps LLC of Aurora, OHIO: I mailed away, at MY OWN EXPENSE ($105.63 CAD = $77.45 USD), your return package, with the 2 defective collecting light units,this morning 29th June 2020 at 9:34:20 AM. The package was shipped expedited Xpresspost-USA,4 business days Guaranteed Service, with full insurance coverage, TRACKING NUMBER: EM045675745CA, signature required, with expected delivery date 07 July 2020. Again to be absolutely clear I DO NOT WANT ANOTHER COLLECTING LIGHT UNIT (if it takes 3 times to get it right....NO WAY!). I WANT A FULL REFUND OF MY MONEY sent to my Paypal account ASAP. PAYPAL IS THE ONLY METHOD I WILL ACCEPT FOR REPAYMENT....No SNAIL MAIL CHEQUES, MONEY ORDERS, BANK DRAFTS ETC.. The total amount you owe me is as follows: 06 March 2020 original Paypal payment made to you of $237.50 USD ($159.00 for one 120v, 40W, 24" Quantum collecting light unit + $36.00 USD for one spare tube to fit said light + $42.50 USD Express shipping = $237.50 USD). I had shortly after placing this order contacted you again to throw in another extra spare tube which I said I would again pay for with Paypal when I received the entire order; Therefore the total now left owing to you currently would have been $36.00 USD. However, I was also, just recently charged an additional extra expense by Customs of $33.13 USD = $45.29 CAD to open & inspect the 2nd shipment I received on 23 June 2020... this charge was totally unnecessary (your fault as package was undamaged, not opened by Customs & unit didn't work right out of the box; the 2nd shipment was opened by Customs so they may have caused some damage to the rattling ballast)... if you would have sent me a working unit in your 1st shipment which I received 06 June, 2020 there would have been no need to make a 2nd shipment. The cost of the 2nd extra tube which I had not yet paid for mentioned above was $36.00 USD; My extra unnecessary Customs charge was $33.13 USD. These 2 figures come pretty close to cancelling each other out so am leaving them out of the calculations. The only thing I have now in my possession on this day of 29 June 2020 are the 2 spare tubes which I still want as I have an older identical model collecting light purchased from you 4 years ago which uses the same tubes. My other additional expense is, of course, the $77.45 USD = $105.63 CAD paid today at my P.O. to send back the 2 defective collecting units. Finally, you owe me the same original amount I paid to you WAY BACK 4 MONTHS AGO: $237.50 USD + the $77.45 USD to resend the 2 faulty units back to you today. GRAND TOTAL YOU OWE ME IS: $237.50 USD + $77.45 USD = $314.95 USD (or $430.81 CAD according to xe.com right now). Please Leroy pay me the $314.95 USD ASAP or, at the latest, by the expected delivery date of your 2 defective units - 07 July 2020. The sooner you pay me the sooner this whole disgusting mess can be deleted & we may both still be able to walk away from this giant misunderstanding with a little dignity. Do more of you members/visitors out there, who have kept up & actually read all my posts in this crazy thread, finally get an idea of what I have been putting up with? To suggest that this old man has serious mental issues has got to be apparent by now. What about you Kalamay?? Hey Dieter (suddenly a new member here?) is your old friend LEROY making any sense now??….you were calling my comments "bad, bad, bad". What do you call this now about LEROY? This man accused me of being a THIEF, with ZERO proof... I have now sent his 2 defective units back & LEROY C. KOEHN, Mr. LEPTRAPS of Aurora, OHIO still owes me $314.95 USD ($430.81 CAD) as laid out twice today!. All I NOW have is 2 spare 120V, 40WATT, 24" Quantum tubes... nothing more.... If LEROY does not return my money.... he is nothing but a "common thief"...the very same words he called me in an email I posted somewhere here in my previous posts. I am now calling on the moderator(s) wollastoni to PLEASE DO SOMETHING! Please help me! Anyone?
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