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Post by Deleted on Apr 26, 2011 15:00:07 GMT -8
Nice. I love this moth period. I can only dream of having them alive Attachments:
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Post by wollastoni on Apr 27, 2011 7:51:59 GMT -8
I don't think you can import allogene moths legally to the US. + G. isabellae is a protected species.
It is a fantastic moth. I know some guys who tried to (re)introduce it in Switzerland.
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Post by wollastoni on Apr 27, 2011 10:02:44 GMT -8
Yes it is Graellsia isabellae galliaegloria described by Oberthur. It has been discovered in 1922 only !!!
The French/Swiss ssp. is the only ssp. that is really different from the nominate.
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Post by inopinatus on Apr 27, 2011 11:09:28 GMT -8
Incredible moth!!!
When the Alps subspecies was first described in 1922, the news of this discovery was such a shock that a lot a french people would not believe it was indeed a true “indigenus” species. How could everyone had missed it for so long??
The truth is that most of the time a lot of collectors tend to go to the same famous places where they maximise the chances to find a specific specimen...Even if I try not to, I also tend do the same. it is human after all.
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Post by diddy on Apr 28, 2011 10:09:22 GMT -8
Hi wollastoni, G. isabellaea is not protected in Switzerland, only in France and Spain. We have this discussion at actias. de (or actias.com) since years. It should be no problem to get eggs from Switzerland at this time. Dietmar
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Post by nomihoudai on Apr 28, 2011 10:26:34 GMT -8
The problem is not getting eggs of A. isabellaea, the problem is getting them into the USA. It's forbidden to import live animals that could survive in their wilderness.
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Post by nomihoudai on Apr 28, 2011 11:03:21 GMT -8
If they see what you did they will stone you to death just like in islam...
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Post by Deleted on Apr 28, 2011 12:06:34 GMT -8
"I dont think so. I sent the eggs of Arctia caja teo year ago and they arrived within a week without problems. If the eggs are sent in a letter, there is no problem to get them anywhere. "
Yes, getting them somewhere via an envelope is fine, but........do this and get caught violating our stupid USDA laws and trouble will abound....sadly. That's why I said earlier that I could only dream of rearing these gems.
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Post by wollastoni on Apr 28, 2011 22:23:44 GMT -8
diddy < thanks a lot, I didn't know. radusho < never send foreign live moths to USA or Canada. You could be fine hundreds of thousand euros.
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Post by modestomoths on Apr 29, 2011 6:29:59 GMT -8
Can they go after the sender, or just the importer?
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Post by nomihoudai on Apr 29, 2011 6:58:50 GMT -8
There are rumors that the USA have developped intercontinental stones in order to be possible to stone people within a radius of 20000 miles which makes them a big danger for anyone breaking US law anywhere on the planet.
No just joking ;P But to come back to topic, if you get fined by US law for breaking it ( by sending animals there they don't want) and you visit the country somewhen in the future it might become an unpleasent trip as they can enforce their law then. I heard 2 months ago of a guy that send birdeating spiders over there and they arrested him when he later visited the country.
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