Collecting without permits?

[LEPMAN]

I don’t understand the purpose in publicly posting that you broke the regulations and used “research” to justify it. I would think that potentially could make it more difficult for legitimate researchers to go about their business. On the side note, in Brazil this general act is known as being “malandro” im not sure about Ecuador but it’s very common in the Brazilian culture.

[joachim]

in germany you may not collect any insects. Here in Göttingen is a university and you surely get a permit if you know the right people. But as I mentioned before there are so few butterflies that I do not collect however.
there are also heavy sums for that up to 50000 EUR but I never heard anybody paid something. There are places in the mountains with many butterflies but there are als people watching you.
I once was in Santo Domingo in the botanical garden with a net and people asked me whether I go fishing.
I asked my friend what is in spanish butterfly and what is catching. I used something like catching and mariposas. But in fact I said something like marriage and mariposas are called the homosexual people. So we had a lot of fun ( after a while I understood)

So, try to get a permit or something from a museum, translated into spanish or whatever is spoken. ( Photoshop is also a good idea )
www.onlinewahn.de/generator/allzweck.htm
you can make you own passport
Joachim

[jf]

Mar 18, 2019 18:13:42 GMT -8 LEPMAN said:

I don’t understand the purpose in publicly posting that you broke the regulations and used “research” to justify it. I would think that potentially could make it more difficult for legitimate researchers to go about their business. On the side note, in Brazil this general act is known as being “malandro” im not sure about Ecuador but it’s very common in the Brazilian culture.

Well, that happened a very very long time ago when I was a kid and didn't even know I needed a permit. I just decided to post it because I read this newspaper article about a Japanese guy being arrested for trying to smuggle 250 specimens (and those ones were going to be used for "real reasearch" according to article")

www.elcomercio.com/tendencias/japones-detencion-tenencia-ilegal-animales.html

I remembered that day once I read that article, I just wanted to share it and see if someone had a similar experience.

Anyway, I really used the few specimens I could catch that day, I was collecting because I wanted to study them.

[joee30]

I remember when I was younger, and naive, I went to a State Park in California, and collected some common butterflies. That was when they started the permit system, but I did not know about it. A ranger came by and asked what I was doing, and I told her what I was doing, and why. She explained to me about the permits, but didn't get upset or anything. She let me keep my bugs as well.

[JKim]

In some areas of the world you need permit to collect natural resources disregarding whether the purpose is a public or private research or just picture, fun, commercial, or whatsoever. It sure is frustrating to make people understand what you are trying to do. I met so many policeman patrolling at night near street light collecting (picking) ground beetles. I tell them that I'm entomology student (not anymore) and I'm studying insects actively fly (and walk) in the night hours from midnight to early morning. If I speak with all the entomological terms and all the difficult-to-understand terms, they just let me go. haha..