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Post by queenbug on Nov 23, 2018 19:57:15 GMT -8
hi have all these from Cameroon I think i've identified some correctly but not sure - others i can't find a correct id for. Please correct any you think are wrong. 2= E edwardsi 4 = E medon 5= E xypete 8= euphaedra ruspina 10 = Euphaedra harpalyce spatiosa F 11= E cyanea 12 = E eleus would appreciate any help ( ignore the old pins - waiting on new ones )  |
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Post by Paul K on Nov 23, 2018 20:27:42 GMT -8
Back in Poland when I begun to collect butterflies ( early ‘80s ) I had no access whatsoever to entomological pins, it was my dream to get some one day.
I used to cut off heads from sewing pins and use those for some time.
Until I found source where I could get “entomological” pins.
Unfortunately they were made of not stainless steel and they were getting rusty with a time.
Now, 28 years later I have replaced all pins to stainless steel, but that was a hell of the job and took me few months.
Paul
PS. Please don’t take it personally, I just can’t stand look of sewing pins. I think just memories from the past. 🙂
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Post by cabintom on Nov 24, 2018 0:19:24 GMT -8
3 is likely Bebearia nivaria
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Post by queenbug on Nov 24, 2018 20:58:58 GMT -8
thankyou for # 3
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Post by sleepymoose on Nov 25, 2018 2:05:58 GMT -8
Hi queenbug,
I am not a lepidopterologist, but by consulting the volume "Papillons du Gabon", I think I have identified your specimens:
1. Euphaedra fulvofasciata; 2. Euphaedra edwardsi; 3. Bebearia nivaria (as suggested by “Cabintom”); 4. Euphaedra medon celestis; 5. Euphaedra hewitsoni (I think it is more similar, compared to E.xypete); 6. Euphaedra fascinata; 7. Euphaedra fulvofasciata; 8. Euphaedra ruspina; 9. Euphaedra ansorgei (I think the most similar one); 10. Euphaedra harpalyce (in the book, the subspecies are not indicated for this species); 11. …..I did not find anything like this…..12. Euphaedra hybrida (but E. eleus could very well be; the two species seem to me very similar).
Obviously those indicated are only suggestions.
Carlo
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Post by queenbug on Nov 25, 2018 19:42:37 GMT -8
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Post by queenbug on Nov 25, 2018 20:48:46 GMT -8
Hi 3 more euphaedra i have to Id 13 - Euphaedra eberti 16 - cyanea ? 17 - ? Appreciate any help.  |
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Post by cabintom on Nov 26, 2018 9:11:38 GMT -8
Euphaedra is a very very difficult group, that is desperately in need of revision. I have a few specimens that I caught myself that have remained unidentified for years.
1. Is very likely E. preussi
16. Is very similar to my specimens of E. diffusa.
I sat down twice now to try IDing these for you, and each time I'm just not certain enough to feel comfortable giving my opinion. The problem is most of these species are separated by the shape of the FW subapical band, and yet the descriptions of this feature for the various species are often similar. Furthermore, I wouldn't be surprised if some of your pairings are actually 2 different species.
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Post by queenbug on Nov 26, 2018 20:33:24 GMT -8
Thankyou so much - really helpful. i will double check the pairings - some of them look so similar.I love Euphaedra and all it's differences - however the ID process is indeed so difficult. Thankyou again  |
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Post by africaone on Nov 26, 2018 22:19:53 GMT -8
Euphaedra is a very very difficult group, that is desperately in need of revision. I have a few specimens that I caught myself that have remained unidentified for years. 1. Is very likely E. preussi 16. Is very similar to my specimens of E. diffusa. I sat down twice now to try IDing these for you, and each time I'm just not certain enough to feel comfortable giving my opinion. The problem is most of these species are separated by the shape of the FW subapical band, and yet the descriptions of this feature for the various species are often similar. Furthermore, I wouldn't be surprised if some of your pairings are actually 2 different species. yes, pairings seem not always ok ... The genus has been very well studied by Hecq and there are actually some people able to identify them (at least three on the site but that seem not interested to participate  ). some specimens of course are difficult to place as the separation between species is not obvious and some more are not yet described. |
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Post by africanentomology on Dec 14, 2018 3:29:51 GMT -8
Hi, Where your Euphaedra came from ? C.A.R. ?
Best
Philippe
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Post by Adam Cotton on Dec 14, 2018 9:13:33 GMT -8
Hi, Where your Euphaedra came from ? C.A.R. ? Best Philippe The original post states the specimens in the first set of photos came from Cameroon, but there was no statement whether the ones in the second lot of photos also came from there or not. Adam. |
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Post by africanentomology on Jan 28, 2019 3:04:36 GMT -8
Hi, for your Euphaedra :
1) preussi
2) edwardsi
3)Bebearia nivaria
4) medon
5) hewitsoni
6) fascinata
7) preussi group
8) ruspina
9) ansorgei
10) harpalyce spatiosa
11) A) diffusa
B) sankuruensis (need ups to be sure)
12) A) eleus
B) hybrida
13) preussi group
14) preussi group
16) diffusa
Best
Philippe
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). some specimens of course are difficult to place as the separation between species is not obvious and some more are not yet described.