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Post by panzerman on Mar 23, 2011 16:35:46 GMT -8
drawer a. polla a. dasarada a. latreillei a. polyeuctes John  Attachments:
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Post by panzerman on Mar 23, 2011 16:37:10 GMT -8
dasarada John  Attachments:
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Post by panzerman on Mar 23, 2011 16:38:13 GMT -8
polyeuctes termessus John Attachments:
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Post by Adam Cotton on Mar 23, 2011 23:15:55 GMT -8
These 'windmill' species actually belong to genus Byasa, as you have written on your specimen labels. Genus Atrophaneura should be restricted to the 'batwing' species of the varuna, nox, semperi, priapus groups.
There has been a lot of confusion over the use of Atrophaneura, with some people even including Pachliopta and Losaria species in that genus.
Adam.
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Post by panzerman on Mar 24, 2011 13:51:52 GMT -8
Adam: Actually, I had byasa on my labels. I must have had that "atrophaneura" still on my mind from posting the sycorax, hageni post... Is there such a thing as byasa oberthuri? I send it on some dealers lists? John  |
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Post by Adam Cotton on Mar 25, 2011 11:10:57 GMT -8
John,
I did say "Byasa, as you have written on your specimen labels".
There is no Byasa oberthuri, but there is a Byasa ouvrardi named by Oberthur, which is a ssp of dasarada from the Burma-Yunnan border area.
Adam.
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Post by crino on Aug 13, 2011 6:12:08 GMT -8
a form of B. dasarada? Attachments:
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Post by Adam Cotton on Aug 13, 2011 8:59:32 GMT -8
It's a female, where's it from?
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Post by crino on Aug 13, 2011 10:12:28 GMT -8
Thank you Adam.
It's from Nainital, India.
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Post by Adam Cotton on Aug 13, 2011 12:46:53 GMT -8
Ah, thought it might be that ssp because of the white spots at the tip of the anal area (where there would be a scent fold in the male). Probably these spots are connected to the discal patches by a small row of spots on the underside too. Some specimens have a full set of discal spots on the upperside also, they are quite variable. This is ssp ravana, which may even be a separate species from dasarada. Here's a photo of the underside of a female in my collection, also from Nainital. Adam. Attachments:
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Post by crino on Aug 16, 2011 13:14:41 GMT -8
Here is the underside. Less white dots as yours, but may be the same sp/ssp, if this is quite variable. This specimen is very old... Attachments:
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Post by Adam Cotton on Aug 16, 2011 23:55:00 GMT -8
Yes, it is the same ssp of course (from the same place), and indeed there is considerable variation between specimens. Your female does have the discal spots I mentioned, but they are smaller than those in the specimen I illustrated.
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