Bishop Museum struggling

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pidp.eastwestcenter.org/pireport/2016/April/04-04-11.htm

Large numbers of the museum's artefacts, photographs and documents will be sold, gifted or transferred to new owners.

Blair Collis, president and chief executive of the Bishop Museum, said the Pacific collections will be spared.

"We will not be selling any Polynesian, Micronesian, Melanesian and Hawaiian collections of any type," he told ABC's Pacific Beat.

"The cuts will effectively degrade the Bishop Museum into a tourist location and a place of entertainment instead of a true museum," he told ABC's Pacific Beat.



I wonder what will happen with the entomology collection?

How long until other museums start failing and have to sell off material?

There is already a trend to make museums more kid-friendly (entertaining) than scientific. Maybe soon museums will be nothing but VR.

Chuck

[joee30]

That is why we need to teach kids about natural history by taking them out into it. Sadly, parents have become more sloppy, and shelter their children. I was watching a small documentary about a Swedish mom, who let her kids play outside, and during winter, let them play in the snow. She would bring them in when it got too cold, but the kids were happy. In contrast, the American mom that was interviewed, was complaining about how wrong it was for schools to let kids play outside because it was cold, and because they could get hurt. This is what is sadly, wrong with America.

[papiliotheona]

Apr 4, 2016 12:59:42 GMT -8 joee30 said:

That is why we need to teach kids about natural history by taking them out into it. Sadly, parents have become more sloppy, and shelter their children. I was watching a small documentary about a Swedish mom, who let her kids play outside, and during winter, let them play in the snow. She would bring them in when it got too cold, but the kids were happy. In contrast, the American mom that was interviewed, was complaining about how wrong it was for schools to let kids play outside because it was cold, and because they could get hurt. This is what is sadly, wrong with America.

The core problem here is the modern West's irrational and pathological phobia of death. In the past, something like two in ten children reached adulthood and so the death of any one, two. or three children, while tragic, was not the "end of the world" like it is today. Now that the fertility rate is sub-replacement level in most places and child mortality is negligible, we can afford to practice the cultural idolatry of every kid being a "special little snowflake".

Like it or not child mortality played a very useful function. It kept the gene pool strong and healthy by weeding out weak specimens, was a strong inhibitor to overpopulation, and taught everyone to have a healthy perspective on life and death.

[nomihoudai]

In the past, something like two in ten children reached adulthood and so the death of any one, two. or three children, while tragic, was not the "end of the world" like it is today.

Uhm, and the other five? In the case of two growing up, and three dying. Did they decide to never grow up, and fly away with Peter Pan to Tomorrowland? (Which is an allegory to death)

[cabintom]

I assume he meant 2 in 10 children never reached adulthood. Which seems about right for ~80+ years ago, in very very very rural northern Ontario... my great-grandparents each had 10+ children reach adulthood, and they each lost a few before then.

Now if he actually did mean only 2 in 10 reached adulthood, then I guess my ancestors were astoundingly fertile people!

[bichos]

Apr 9, 2016 5:11:19 GMT -8 cabintom said:

I assume he meant 2 in 10 children never reached adulthood. Which seems about right for ~80+ years ago, in very very very rural northern Ontario... my great-grandparents each had 10+ children reach adulthood, and they each lost a few before then.

Now if he actually did mean only 2 in 10 reached adulthood, then I guess my ancestors were astoundingly fertile people!

Dont confuse fertiliry with death rates.

[bichos]

Apr 8, 2016 23:35:03 GMT -8 nomihoudai said:

In the past, something like two in ten children reached adulthood and so the death of any one, two. or three children, while tragic, was not the "end of the world" like it is today.

Uhm, and the other five? In the case of two growing up, and three dying. Did they decide to never grow up, and fly away with Peter Pan to Tomorrowland? (Which is an allegory to death)

This comment is dope(dope has its place btw and generally speaking its not a good thing). You should retract it

[Paul K]

Apr 9, 2016 6:01:10 GMT -8 bichos said:

Apr 8, 2016 23:35:03 GMT -8 nomihoudai said:

Uhm, and the other five? In the case of two growing up, and three dying. Did they decide to never grow up, and fly away with Peter Pan to Tomorrowland? (Which is an allegory to death)

This comment is dope(dope has its place btw and generally speaking its not a good thing). You should retract it

Actually "dope" means cool or awesome

[bichos]

Nope. Depends where you're from I guess, my peeps and I have been using it under a different and rather negative context. But you're right. The Urban Dictionary describes it as; "word that describes something that is extremely cool, such as music, clothes, people, etc."
Anyway the comment in question makes no sense

[cabintom]

Apr 9, 2016 6:00:03 GMT -8 bichos said:

Apr 9, 2016 5:11:19 GMT -8 cabintom said:

I assume he meant 2 in 10 children never reached adulthood. Which seems about right for ~80+ years ago, in very very very rural northern Ontario... my great-grandparents each had 10+ children reach adulthood, and they each lost a few before then.

Now if he actually did mean only 2 in 10 reached adulthood, then I guess my ancestors were astoundingly fertile people!

Dont confuse fertiliry with death rates.

I think it's fairly obvious (or it should be) that I'm not in any way confusing the two. My great grandparents and their families were very typical for their time... so for the stat to hold true (and using them simply as an example), if my grandfather and his 9 siblings reached adulthood (which, to be clear, they did), and that was only the case for on average 2 in 10 children, then that would mean that my great grandmother would have given birth to 50 children. As for my grandmother's mother, she had 12 kids reach adulthood... so I guess she gave birth to 60 children?

This is why assume he meant 2 in 10 children never reached adulthood.

[leptraps]

I am going to touch on a very touchy subject. We still reduce the number of before they are born. I do care what others think. It is a womans choice. To murder or not to murder the unborn. It is a life which is destroyed. I do not care about what man my make legal. Killing the unborn is killing.

Americans who cannot conceive will travel the world over to adopt a child. Yet we, Americans in all our wealth and power will abort thousand of children every day.

The love and joy that little babies bring into our world. What a sin we commit when we abort.

[Cassida]

This discussion is very very off topic. But - no nation can icrease his population forever! Insuficient place and resources. In the USA you will must to solve it soon too.