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Post by exoticimports on Oct 20, 2015 5:12:16 GMT -8
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Post by nomihoudai on Oct 21, 2015 1:04:29 GMT -8
I had seen this before, people mostly complain why he couldn't tag the bird by GPS, gather some data on where they live and then pick up the carcass once it is dead. Birds can be tagged, not like insects. I do understand this a bit, on the other hand I do understand that picking up a dead bird, or hoping that the dead remains will stay longer than a few hours in a jungle, let alone reach it, is probably naive and silly.
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Post by jshuey on Oct 21, 2015 5:08:48 GMT -8
Back in the late 1980's, I was talking to Jon Alquist about a possible post doc position with him. He told me that a few years earlier, he and Charles Silbly (North American birders will know this name) spent a few months on a research vessel in the south Pacific collecting "samples" for their DNA Hybridization work. At one point, they ran out of shotgun shells, and had to wait in port while a few cases of ammunition arrived from the states. Jon said that the ship was essentially a floating freezer for dead birds (see en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sibley%E2%80%93Ahlquist_taxonomy_of_birds for a description of the results of this work). Times have changed - or perhaps, people did things a lot more quietly back then. John |
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Post by wollastoni on Oct 21, 2015 6:01:24 GMT -8
+ why the hell did they communicate about having killed it ? Seems very naive to me.
Of course, non-scientific people won't understand it... especially in the case of a beautiful and rare bird. It seems to me a very bad press relationship strategy.
They could have had excellent press reviews to raise more funds and so on.
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Post by nomihoudai on Oct 21, 2015 8:43:44 GMT -8
+ why the hell did they communicate about having killed it ? Seems very naive to me. When a bird that has not been found in decades appears, and they also have a voucher specimen, then this becomes communicated very quickly in the birding community. It's like the photographer of P. elephenor had said that he deposited a specimen in some museum. |
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