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Post by Deleted on Mar 5, 2011 13:13:56 GMT -8
Another great genus is Odontolabis. Here is an Odontolabis femoralis waterstradti male. Hard to beat for the Lucaniid group. I would go crazy if I could rear any of these guys Now, before any of you (Eric, Dave, Beetlehorn.....)decide to comment....I know I'm crazy already Attachments:
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Post by lucanidae25 on Mar 5, 2011 15:42:01 GMT -8
Don't worry I think I'm crazy too but there's nothing wrong with that. I think it's only possible to breed Lucanidae or Dynastidae if you live in Japan or near Japan, lets face it we all want to breed big specimens. That'll require the best materials and I don't think there are people out there that are more willing to spend money to come up with the best breeding materials than Japanese at the moment. With out even mentioning import permits and shipping costs, very expensive at the ends................. but not crazy!!! ;D ;D ;D Raymond
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Post by Deleted on Mar 5, 2011 15:49:53 GMT -8
Raymond, You're quite right. I do feel, if govt. regs allowed, that many including myself would, however, pay for the thrill. It would be like paying for that butterfly/beetle one wants papered, but instead that $ went for live specimens. Rearing is totally great and adds a neat dimension to the hobby for me and many I know. So....for now, I'll have to reflect on all the great memories I had when rearing L. elaphus recently I still have a few dozen D. tityus in L3 stages to go.
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Post by lucanidae25 on Mar 5, 2011 15:58:02 GMT -8
Do you know anyone has breeded a more than 64mm L. elaphus with in America yet?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 5, 2011 17:40:33 GMT -8
No I don't................and..................I wish I were able to say I was the one who had done such a thing. There is always next time.
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Post by lucanidae25 on Mar 5, 2011 17:51:31 GMT -8
Yes, there's always next time. Good attitude to have!!! ;D
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Post by lucanidae25 on Mar 8, 2011 15:27:10 GMT -8
Here are some of the harder Odontolabis sp to find: from left to right Odontolabis kircheri 71mm (Sumatra) Odontolabis katsurai 72mm (Sabah, Borneo) Odontolabis schenki 76mm (Sabah, Borneo) Attachments:
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Post by lucanidae25 on Mar 8, 2011 15:34:54 GMT -8
Here are all the Odontolabis striata ssp: top left to right Odontolabis striata cephalotes 45mm (Sabah, Borneo) Odontolabis striata cephalotes 40mm (Sumatra) bottom left to right Odontolabis striata striata 45mm (Sabah, Borneo) Odontolabis striata striata 34mm (W. Malaysia) Odontolabis striata striata 45mm (Sumatra) Attachments:
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Post by bichos on Mar 17, 2011 1:17:08 GMT -8
Very Nice specimens Ray I didn't know you had all those striatas.
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Post by lucanidae25 on Mar 17, 2011 3:10:01 GMT -8
I'm sure you've seen them in my collection but maybe you forgot already .
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Post by beetlehorn on Mar 17, 2011 17:49:24 GMT -8
In response to your question regarding a 64mm specimen of L. elaphus...... I have never seen one quite that size, but I have come close. A few years ago I had a terrific collecting season and captured a wild male that measures 63mm! I still have that one in my collection. Finding a 60mm wild specimen is rather uncommon even if you collect in ideal habitat, and finding one above the 60mm category is actually a rarity. Oh, and Bill, I think all of us are at least a little bit crazy, it comes with the territory of insect collecting. Anyway thats how the general public sees us. Tom Attachments:
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Post by lucanidae25 on Mar 18, 2011 0:57:22 GMT -8
Tom, I've seen one Japanese has already achieved in breeding L. elaphus 64mm and that is why I said if any one wants to breed any beetles, they need to live in Japan. They have got the best breeding materials and I don't think you can just make them up yourself. It will not be the same. L. elephus 60mm is already becoming common in Japan. Raymond
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Post by ryanm on Sept 14, 2012 12:04:00 GMT -8
Sorry to bump this but... I'm sorry to disagree! Beetle breeding is experiencing a revolution in the US now! This substrate you see, what made by humans! why can't it be imitated? There are few good breeders in the US, but still some. I know the Japanese are the best... but... why? Because they have been at it for years! We just need to keep trying! If you want to really help out, join my page on FB! www.facebook.com/pages/Coleoptera/130959736976072
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Post by lucanidae25 on Sept 14, 2012 15:20:43 GMT -8
Isn't it illegal to import live specimens into the US? I don't how you can send live specimens into the US?
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Post by mygala on Sept 14, 2012 16:49:49 GMT -8
No, it's not illegal to import live in to the US.
It's also not necessarily cheap, but there are folks out there that seem to find it worth their while.
It just takes some patience, organization and perhaps the help of a good broker.
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