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Post by lepidofrance on Feb 17, 2014 10:38:07 GMT -8
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Post by lepidofrance on Feb 19, 2014 1:20:45 GMT -8
Sorry about the poor quality of Satyrinae photos ! What about this Lycaenidae : Hemiolaus ceres ?  |
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Post by jonathan on Feb 19, 2014 5:57:47 GMT -8
As you know, my Satyrinae knowledge lies much North to Madagascar, but the first 2 photos looks very similar to Strabena dyscola Mabille, 1880. The 4th & the 5th seems to be from the genus Heteropsis, but I cannot confirm the species. Good luck Jonathan www.satyrinae.yolasite.com/ |
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Post by lepidofrance on Feb 19, 2014 13:44:29 GMT -8
Dear Jonathan,
Thank you so much. I believe you're absolutly right about Strabena dyscola Mabille, 1880.
By the way, I have some difficulty to understand the systematics regarding genus Heteropsis and Hanetosia : two different genus or a revision from Hanetosia to Hereropsis for some species ?
Many thanks !
JMG
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Post by africaone on Feb 19, 2014 22:51:51 GMT -8
Hanetosia : two different genus or a revision from Hanetosia I think the correct spelling is Henotesia |
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Post by jonathan on Feb 19, 2014 23:30:58 GMT -8
I believe that Henotesia Butler, 1879, is a synonym of Heteropsis Westwood, 1850. Apparently both D'Abrera 1980 Butterflies of the Afrotropical Region, and Lewis 1974 Butterflies of the World use the Genus Henotesia, which in my opinion is incorrect. Niklas Wahlberg is his Nymphalidae Systematics Group website uses the genus Heteropsis and I would take this to be the correct Genus.
Jonathan
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Post by gauthier on Feb 20, 2014 1:07:50 GMT -8
See your PM
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Post by lepidofrance on Feb 20, 2014 1:09:01 GMT -8
In fact, I use the book of Lewis, not having the d'Abrera on the Afrotropical fauna (I have the d'Abrera's Butterflies of the World). Thank you for these interesting and illuminating informations about Heteropsis genus.
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Post by africaone on Feb 20, 2014 6:50:09 GMT -8
not clear ... (see brower in his page www.tolweb.org/Mycalesina/70799) Henotesia seems paraphyletic but well distinct from Heteropsis. Henotesia seems a Savannah habitant and Heteropsis a forest one. In all last works on African Fauna, the two are separated. The type species of Heteropsis (drepana) is something quite different from the "classic" Henotesia. I never see in recent works, Heteropsis used for the snesu auctorum Henotesia (except a forest species put in Heteropsis by Larsen). On the British Museum site, Henotesia seems to be conserved. Seems to be a mess that needs study. |
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Post by lepidofrance on Feb 20, 2014 13:58:27 GMT -8
On the funet page ftp.funet.fi/index/Tree_of_life/insecta/lepidoptera/ditrysia/papilionoidea/nymphalidae/satyrinae/heteropsis/index.htmlHeteropsis and Henotesia are given as synonyms : Heteropsis Westwood, 1850 Heteropsis Westwood, 1850; Gen. diurn. Lep. (2): 323, pl. 63, f. 5, TS: Heteropsis drepana Westwood Henotesia Butler, 1879; Ann. Mag. nat. Hist. (5) 4 (21) : 228, TS: Henotesia wardii Butler Heteropsis vola (Ward, 1870) Madagascar. See [About maps] Mycalesis vola Ward, 1870 Henotesia vola ; [BAFR, 184] Heteropsis fuliginosa (Mabille, 1878) Madagascar. See [About maps] Mycalesis fuliginosa Mabille, 1878 Henotesia fuliginosa ; [BAFR, 186] Heteropsis fuliginosa ; [MadL]; [AfrL] And so on ! And that is why I found the systematic rather confused. Thank you for indicating paraphyly as for ecological data. JM |
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Post by africaone on Feb 20, 2014 23:29:13 GMT -8
very few serious work were done on African Satyrinae. Of course Condamin with Bicyclus and Kielland that disappeared too early to complete study, and who revised African Henotesia !
a general remark about Wahlberg's work is that he made a fantastic genetic work but, unfortunately he (or his collaborator) doesn't take his responsibilities in relation to the consequences of his discoveries (i. e. in Charaxes for a group that I know)
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