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Post by pittendrighinsects on May 5, 2013 8:43:27 GMT -8
Hi,
Does anyone have any pics of this species or have it in collection...probably 1000 times rarer than fournierae! Found only on Socrotia, in Yemen...
Quintin
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Post by dertodesking on May 5, 2013 9:15:44 GMT -8
Quintin, Not mine but a quick search on the internet and I found this... As to it's rarity I'll leave that to some of the Charaxes experts on here... Simon  Attachments:
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Post by africaone on May 5, 2013 9:26:14 GMT -8
the problem is not the rarity (surely not XX time fourniereae) but the locality !
real rarity in the field can't exist otherwise the species will quickly disappear. rarity is linked to how, where and when to catch !
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Post by Deleted on May 5, 2013 9:37:15 GMT -8
Yeah, Yemen, the safest place on earth to collect probably!  |
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Post by pittendrighinsects on May 5, 2013 12:38:02 GMT -8
I agree that it is not naturaly rare, but in collections it is because there are no collectors on Socrotia...and besides, as thadeos said, Yemen isn't exactly safe. Actually, I was recently offered P. saharae rathjensis from there for 1100 usd for a pair...no way |
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Post by lamprima2 on May 5, 2013 18:36:04 GMT -8
Quintin,
Did you mean Socotra?
Best,
Sergey
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Post by colin12303 on May 6, 2013 2:22:52 GMT -8
A few years ago organised bird watching trips were advertised on the internet to Socotra.
Don't think i will go there though.
Charaxes velox also comes from there and i have seen a couple of pairs advertised for large amounts of money.
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Post by wollastoni on May 6, 2013 3:45:58 GMT -8
There have been many collecting trips in Yemen in the 80ies/90ies. Some of my friends went there.
True that today it's not the safest place for Western collectors unfortunately...
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Post by Adam Cotton on May 6, 2013 6:30:29 GMT -8
There have been many collecting trips in Yemen in the 80ies/90ies. Some of my friends went there. True that today it's not the safest place for Western collectors unfortunately... This is not from mainland Yemen, but from Socotra Island, which belongs to Yemen but is off the tip of the Somali 'horn'. Anyway, it's probably not an exactly safe place to go to with both Yemen's problems and Somali pirates in the sea around the area. Adam. |
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Post by wollastoni on May 6, 2013 7:04:32 GMT -8
Yes I know where Socotra is.  I think those expeditions went both to mainland Yemen and to Yemenese islands. |
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Post by pittendrighinsects on May 6, 2013 15:44:15 GMT -8
Mainland Yemen would be nice...I heard it has more rainfall than the surrounding Peninsula and even forests...
Socrota also has an interesting biodiversity, but as in the previous comments, not the safest place (Yemen nor the islands)
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Post by lamprima2 on May 6, 2013 20:37:53 GMT -8
Socotra, please
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Post by wollastoni on May 8, 2013 3:58:45 GMT -8
Very true, I would be happy to see a picture of L. felix by the way.
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Post by nomihoudai on May 9, 2013 1:39:22 GMT -8
Some of the Lasiommata you are talking about are in Bozano's book on Satyrinae. Lasiommata felix can be seen there for sure.
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Post by chardelpar on May 11, 2013 2:36:56 GMT -8
Dear friends collectors
I was two times in Yemen for collecting trips in 1993 and 1999, one month each time. July/august was a very good period, with many species in flight. I collected P. saharae rathjensi near Sana'a and also near Taez and it was not rare, but local in altitude (2200/2400 m) I found lasiommata felix common in altitudes in rather many places. Pseudotergumia tewfiki was found in 1999 at one place only on Jabal saber, just over Taez town, at 2400 m.
I display good Charaxes photos on the fascicles I published in Erich Bauer series "Butterflies of the world" and there you can see Ch. balfouri and Ch. velox from Socotra. These specimens were collected by the late Dr Canu in the years 1992/1996 (about). He collected a good number of Ch. velox but very few Ch. balfouri. When I collected (with bait traps) in mainland Yemen, I found the 3 species existing in this country Ch. bernstoffi (small black), and Ch. hansali yemeni, Ch. varanes torbeni that I described in Lambillionea paper (Belgium)
While compiling the butterflies fauna of Yemen I conclued to 133 species, which is quite a high number on a so called "desertic country". But Yemen mountains are far from dry and in June to September, you may get rain every day, landscapes are green ,with lot of flowers.
I regret that the present political situation prevents anybody to visit the place again. There was some tourism between 1992 and 2004 but the window is now closed. The country is absolutely marvellous as landscape and villages. However, the people are tough : any adult you meet bears his own Kalaschnikov at the shoulder ! but we visited the mountains with a local yemenite driver who protected us in any unsafe situation.
The list of Yemen butterflies is published in Entomologia africana. (two articles)
Contact me if interested in further informations Bernard
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