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Post by panzerman on Feb 3, 2011 20:22:17 GMT -8
papilio karna all 4 ssp. M+F p. blumei 2 ssp. M+F p. pericles pericles M+F (Wetar) p. pericles ssp. nova M+F (Seremata Is.) John  Attachments:
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Post by johnnyboy on Feb 4, 2011 1:12:54 GMT -8
Lovely butterflies, P. blumei is one of my favorite swallowtails. As a schoolboy in the early 70s I paid £11-00 for a male, about 4 months pocket money at the time.
Johnny
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Post by panzerman on Feb 4, 2011 6:01:45 GMT -8
Blumei was very expensive back then, in 2011 money that equals 200+ pounds($500US) Ornithoptera rothschildi was $1500US back in 1970, today ($30,000)!!!! On the otherhand, papilio lampsacus was $25 in 1970, now $3500US!, o. alexandrae was $300US in 1975, now $5000-8000.... Parnassius apollo, which has seen many ssp. go the way of the Great Auk, Dodo, Moa.....probably will see greatest increase in prices. John |
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Post by simosg on Feb 4, 2011 9:40:46 GMT -8
John,
very nice drawer! Can you please tell me the order of the karna subspecies from the top to the bottom. I cannot read it on the lables.
Hannes
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Post by dertodesking on Feb 4, 2011 13:08:48 GMT -8
Lovely butterflies, P. blumei is one of my favorite swallowtails. As a schoolboy in the early 70s I paid £11-00 for a male, about 4 months pocket money at the time. Johnny John, I for one am very pleased blumei has come down in price - it's also one of my favourites! Simon |
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Post by panzerman on Feb 4, 2011 14:30:31 GMT -8
Hannes: karna karna M+F (Java) karna carnatus M+F (Sabah) karna discordia M+F (Sumatra) karna iruana M+F (Palawan) Sorry, I am a novice photographer, some photos have poor contrast.... John  |
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Post by simosg on Feb 4, 2011 23:57:37 GMT -8
Thank you John!
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Post by crino on May 26, 2013 11:38:41 GMT -8
Does anybody know what are the morphological differencies between the different subspecies of Papilio karna: karna / carnatus / irauana / discordia?
Thank you!
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Post by admin on May 26, 2013 13:01:41 GMT -8
Blumei detail shot from my collection:  |
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Post by Adam Cotton on May 26, 2013 13:19:08 GMT -8
papilio karna all 4 ssp. M+F p. blumei 2 ssp. M+F p. pericles pericles M+F (Wetar) p. pericles ssp. nova M+F (Seremata Is.) John There are no subspecies of P. pericles. The variations of individuals are not locality based, and can be found throughout the range of P. pericles. Adam. |
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Post by lepidofrance on May 26, 2013 15:08:08 GMT -8
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Post by lepidofrance on May 27, 2013 5:33:38 GMT -8
Some P. blumei collected in Perdingan Palolo Lindu (Sulawesi center) in the location pictured above (2008, August). As far I remember, two of them were caught while mud-puddling on the path, the two other flying. Many A. dixoni (males & females), the same day at this right place.  Attachments:
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Post by wollastoni on May 28, 2013 2:17:47 GMT -8
P. blumei is a stunning lep.
I caught some in Puncak Palopo, Sulawesi, one of the most beautiful lep I have seen (with C. imperatrix and P. ulysses maybe).
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