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Post by Deleted on Jun 1, 2014 12:12:32 GMT -8
right, that does it, I'm off to rough up some of my lidderdali so that they are A2 if people are willing to pay those prices, ridiculous.
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Post by wollastoni on Jun 2, 2014 6:15:45 GMT -8
I have contacted and informed the seller, he has now added in the description. " the specimen determined by local supplier THAT MAYBE A BHUTANITIS LIDDERDALII LIDERDALLI ALSO VERY HARD TO GET NOW"
It would be more professional to cancel the sale and to restart it with the right description...
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Post by monasteria on Jun 2, 2014 7:08:23 GMT -8
I have contacted and informed the seller, he has now added in the description. " the specimen determined by local supplier THAT MAYBE A BHUTANITIS LIDDERDALII LIDERDALLI ALSO VERY HARD TO GET NOW" It would be more professional to cancel the sale and to restart it with the right description… I share your opinion. Especially when it comes to super rarities like the ludlowi, a little addendum is not enough.
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Post by africaone on Jun 2, 2014 7:33:10 GMT -8
I have contacted and informed the seller, he has now added in the description. " the specimen determined by local supplier THAT MAYBE A BHUTANITIS LIDDERDALII LIDERDALLI ALSO VERY HARD TO GET NOW" It would be more professional to cancel the sale and to restart it with the right description... strange seller (and buyer !) .. looks like he sales an entire old collection !
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Post by mokky on Jun 2, 2014 16:48:01 GMT -8
The idetification key to two Bhutanitis species is mentioned in the following webpage. The specimen of B. ludlowi shown is the Paratype housed in BMNH. Reliable source. www.ifoundbutterflies.org/id-key/Bhutanitismokky
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Post by stapleton on Jun 2, 2014 18:38:01 GMT -8
africaone: "strange seller (and buyer !) .. looks like he sales an entire old collection !"
Well, I don't know anything about this particular buyer, but as for the seller... A year or so ago I tried to draw your attention, people, to that very-very special individual. This personality specializes in selling ancient and fourth-hand stuff, buying it for a dime and pushing it on eBay for insane prices. So, don't you ever mind the data or the identification, 'cause it just does not matter a thing when it comes to BUSINESS. Happy bidding! There is yet one more eBay "seller", who gives no damn and just lists his faded stuff like "jacquemonti or mercurius" (actius, in fact), etc. "Ornithoptera priamus miokensis or Vanessa io, WHICH IS ALSO VERY RARE in this locality"...
P.S. That poor ill-fated lidderdalli surely deserves some extra hundreds of bucks...
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Post by timmsyrj on Jul 11, 2014 11:21:09 GMT -8
I'm a little late on this thread but good too here that ludlowi has gone from mythological mystery to two known localities in a few years, hopefully more will be found now the habitat is known, interesting though that the second discovery was in a protected wildlife sanctuary, though I doubt this will prove any good for it, lampsacus was thriving in a similar habitat.
Rich
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Post by krupten on Jul 11, 2014 19:55:11 GMT -8
HI Rich - First the area Arunachal Pradesh is the sanctuary and from what Peter told me when I was talking to him - collecting can be actively discouraged by the use of firearms - so they are pretty well protected. Photos r ok as they are in Bhutan but the areas are protected "religiously" so they should be safe. P.lampsacus is still alive and well - just NOT in the same area on Gede as they were. The fire destroyed the local habitat but the species has been sighted some distance away - so HOPEFULLY far enough away so that 900000 Javanese don't go to collect them. Cites people and Perhilitan wish to have it bred and reestablished but do not have the budget for the program nor a person to breed them. With proper management and pricing they can be done - but without support this too is just a "flight of fantasy". Cheers
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Post by nomad on Jul 11, 2014 20:44:47 GMT -8
Hi Greg - Interesting. If P. lampsacus is truly alive and well, it would be nice to have at least some photographic evidence, rather than just reported sightings. It is surprising given the interest in extinct species that no lepidopterists or other naturalists have mounted a expedition to look for it.
Regards Peter.
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