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Post by lepidofrance on Oct 9, 2012 3:04:03 GMT -8
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Post by lepidofrance on Oct 9, 2012 3:06:11 GMT -8
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Post by lepidofrance on Oct 9, 2012 6:06:27 GMT -8
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Post by Adam Cotton on Oct 9, 2012 7:33:42 GMT -8
- Punjen Hide Away (Prae prov.) Just a friendly correction, the Province name is spelt "Phrae", but is pronounced Prae, not Frae. You won't find "Prae" on a map of Thailand. Many Thai words are transliterated into English letters using Ph for P, Th for T and Kh for K due to their Sanskrit origin. Thus the country name is pronounced Tie-land rather than Thigh-land, and the southern island of Phuket is pronounced Poo-ket rather than the alternative Foo-ket. Adam. |
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Post by wollastoni on Oct 9, 2012 7:49:00 GMT -8
Same for Koh Phiphi who has a funny pronounciation in english and french...
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Post by Adam Cotton on Oct 9, 2012 12:40:06 GMT -8
That island is very beautiful, as long as all the English and French tourists don't turn it into a public toilet :-)
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mokky
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Post by mokky on Oct 9, 2012 14:41:43 GMT -8
Thank you for sharing excellent work.
I really enjoyed the videos.
All the butterflies filmed are familar to me. It made me feel a bit different from watching the videos on butterflies of Africa or South America. I was able to imagine easily the situation that this cameraman felt or experienced during the filming.
cheers,
mokky
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Post by lepidofrance on Oct 9, 2012 14:49:17 GMT -8
Ko Phi Phi Don :
I spent some days there in the 70s. It was a kind of paradise with a very small fishermen village. But, the first hotel was under construction ... Anyway, beaches and forest were still desert.
I came back 25 years after. The village was changed into an ugly touristical lunapark. I was glad to stay in a lodge at the North end of the island, far from the "public toilet" and very close to the forest where many butterflies were flying. And where the beach and the coral reef were almost unspoiled.
I would be pleased to visit the archipelago just North of Langkawi (Ko Tarutao). As far I know, it's a national park where it will be forbidden to collect some butterflies ...
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Post by lepidofrance on Oct 9, 2012 15:03:50 GMT -8
By the way, when in Ko Chang, I stayed in Ban Khlong Phrao.
I suppose that "Ban" means village (like in laotian) and local people were talking about "Prao" and not "frao" or "phrao" !
Open to tourism since 10 or 15 years, the West coast of Ko Chang is also changing to a turistical "public toilet" (hotels, lodges, resorts, fast food, brothels, shops selling sad and cheap souvenirs, and so on). It took 3 days before getting a good place to eat (thai cooking) : all the restaurants were selling ugly food directly out from congelators !
Nevertheless, when you leave the coast to go inside the island, the rain forest remains pristine and one can see a lot of butterflies.
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Post by Adam Cotton on Oct 10, 2012 0:50:56 GMT -8
Ban does indeed mean "village", Khlong (pronounced Klong) is "canal", Phrao (pronounced Prao) here is short for Maphrao which means "coconut", so the place means Coconut Canal Village. Thai and Lao (rather than Laotian) are really dialects of the same language, with some differences in the alphabet and pronounciation and some words that are not common to both languages. Also some words are used differently in Thai and Lao, so for example when passing customs on the Lao side they will ask you "Do you have any khreuang?" Khreuang in Thai means a machine, but in Lao here it means things in general (to declare in this instance). If I am in Laos the Lao people can understand most of my Thai and I can understand most of what they say. This is very different to the situation in the other countries bordering Thailand where the language is totally different.
I earlier mentioned that the h after P, T & K is silent, but in the case of "Ch" it is pronounced the English way. Ko means "island" and Chang means "elephant", so Ko Chang is Elephant Island. The whole island is actually a National Park, and many buildings are illegally built.
Adam.
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