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Post by pittendrighinsects on Sept 18, 2012 19:04:03 GMT -8
This summer, I went on a collecting trip to Spain and got a few specimens of L. reducta, including a huge female in very good condition. I recently read a post about how the authorities are on alert and are cracking down on German collectors who sell this on the open market (post by Goliath). Is this species uncommon or rare?
Quintin Pittendrigh bordacem on ebay
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Post by thanos on Sept 18, 2012 19:26:34 GMT -8
Common and widespread species here in Greece.
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Post by wollastoni on Sept 18, 2012 23:39:19 GMT -8
Limenitis reducta is very common. You must mistake for Limenitis populi which is rare in many European countries.
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Post by nostrodamus on Sept 19, 2012 1:24:44 GMT -8
L. populi in Spain
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Post by wollastoni on Sept 19, 2012 1:55:52 GMT -8
Did not understand Quintin was talking about Spanish authorities. If you did Quintin, then Spanish authorities are against all insect collecting even for common species like L. reducta.
There's no link with the rarity of the species. In Spain, like in Brazil, you can destroy the nature and biotops with crazy intensive agriculture in Andalusia but you cannot collect a common L. reducta...
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Post by miguel on Sept 19, 2012 3:38:12 GMT -8
I have collected this year Limenitis reducta in Granada and I have specimens from the north of Spain and from Castellon(near the sea and in the mountains)It´s widespread but not too much common here.All the specimens collected with permits.In Spain I t is easier the hunt of wolf than to collect insects
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Post by lepidofrance on Sept 19, 2012 4:37:35 GMT -8
Azuritis ( Limenitis) reducta is very common in Southern France (Provence, for example). Not at all a threatened species ! Attachments:
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Post by Borja Gómez on Sept 19, 2012 9:57:48 GMT -8
Hello
I agree with Miguel. The L. reducta is widespread here, you can find them in atlantic and mediterranean biotopes also, but is not common in the sense that usually there aren't many specimens flying in the same locality. This year I've catched two specimens, one in Ourense (Galicia) and another one in Leon (Castilla). Anyways I think it's more about the biology of the species and habitat destruction more than the people collecting them. The L. populi is not cited from Spain, as far as I know, only exists ne doubtful cite like 50 years ago. And about the issue of collecting here in Spain, like Miguel said, from the law optics total nosense. In the practice, you can collect freely, because anobody will ask (except in protected areas, there you can have a good fine if discovered without permits)
Regards
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Post by pittendrighinsects on Sept 19, 2012 13:57:08 GMT -8
I go to Spain every summer to visit my grandparents and use to collect only in the fields their house, usually getting P. machaon hispanicus, I. p. feithamelii and other common species. Lately, I've started walking over to a forested area and got all these new species such as Charaxes jasius. Limenitis seemed not common though not extremely rare, except for the females. Collecting in Spain is no problem (or in any other place) because the authorities usually don't care, but I had recently read a post saying this about the L. reducta, just wanted to clarify. Also, are there any subspecies? Thanks.
Quintin Pittendrigh bordacem on ebay
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Post by miguel on Sept 19, 2012 14:08:53 GMT -8
I think there are not ssp of L.reducta described from Spain.
Miguel
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