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Post by Adam Cotton on Nov 4, 2021 7:39:38 GMT -8
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Post by trehopr1 on Nov 4, 2021 11:40:08 GMT -8
Wow Adam, That looks like such a great book !
The Japanese always produce such wonderful works in their books.
Do you know what the book may be priced out at ?
Did you contribute in some manner to this book ?
Do you have any initial comments as yet about the content of the book ?
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Post by Crake on Nov 4, 2021 12:03:42 GMT -8
It looks like the retail price is 25,000 yen, which is around $220. Shipping/handling is an additional $75.
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Post by Christof on Nov 4, 2021 12:09:54 GMT -8
Well, if you click on the link provided by Adam you'll get most of the information already.... Personally I ordered books from Roppon-Ashi before, very reliable book dealer/publisher in Japan.
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Post by exoticimports on Nov 4, 2021 12:52:14 GMT -8
I’ll bet Adam already has a copy.
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Post by Adam Cotton on Nov 4, 2021 13:03:05 GMT -8
I’ll bet Adam already has a copy. The author will send me a copy after it is published. I guess it will arrive before Christmas. Adam.
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Post by trehopr1 on Nov 4, 2021 13:09:41 GMT -8
Thank you for the pricing update.
That sounds like a reasonable price. At least it is roughly half the price of the birdwing book from a couple years ago !
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Post by trehopr1 on Nov 4, 2021 13:10:19 GMT -8
Do you have any contributions to the book Adam ?
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Post by Adam Cotton on Nov 4, 2021 13:26:57 GMT -8
Do you have any contributions to the book Adam ? Sort of If you check the link and scroll down you will see "Editorial Supervisor : Yasusuke NISHIYAMA & Adam COTTON". I should say that I cannot read Japanese, so had no input on the Japanese text. Adam.
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Post by trehopr1 on Nov 4, 2021 16:35:06 GMT -8
Most of the passages that I have ever read concerning the number of papilionid species always seem to be in excess of 600 and as high as 700.
So, in this book 603 species are addressed and I'm left wondering are there some that were not mentioned for some reason or is this number closer to the true figure at this time ?
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Post by eurytides on Nov 4, 2021 17:40:00 GMT -8
Papilio ponceana is elevated to species status? Adam, care to share some insight on this change?
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Post by cabintom on Nov 4, 2021 21:56:16 GMT -8
Any word on how the Papilio nireus group is treated? In other words, is there new research being published on the group or is it just a restating of what is "known"?
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Post by Adam Cotton on Nov 5, 2021 3:43:28 GMT -8
Papilio ponceana is elevated to species status? Adam, care to share some insight on this change? No changes were made to the species status of taxa in the book. However, recent changes were incorporated. The elevation of ponceana to species status was made in Zhang, J., Q. Cong, J. Shen, P. A. Opler and N. V. Grishin. 2020. Genomic evidence suggests further changes of butterfly names. The Taxonomic Report 8(7): 1-41. (published 6 November 2020) The paper is available here: www.zobodat.at/pdf/The-Taxonomic-Report_8-7_0001-0041.pdfAdam.
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Post by bobw on Nov 5, 2021 5:21:21 GMT -8
I wasn't aware of that Zhang et al (2020) paper but it looks extremely interesting and opens up a lot of questions. It needs a lot of further study.
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Post by radusho on Nov 5, 2021 6:19:02 GMT -8
Przewalskii and baileyi listed as separate Parnassius species is really prehistoric classification
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