PAPILIO ANTIMACHUS Female is not a female!

[Paul K]

Recently posted on eBay! this is not a female (unless we follow our new government policies that if someone has to say male is a female then he/she/it I don't know what to say! Am I only get crazy here?) and already has bid $600 !!! ( I suppose it is a fake bid !)
Stay away!

www.ebay.ca/itm/185060182922?_trkparms=amclksrc%3DITM%26aid%3D111001%26algo%3DREC.SEED%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20160908105057%26meid%3D2f6a815c098a41cd8f88b9a4f40f9d6b%26pid%3D100675%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D15%26sd%3D185060182922%26itm%3D185060182922%26pmt%3D0%26noa%3D1%26pg%3D2380057&_trksid=p2380057.c100675.m4236&_trkparms=pageci%3A3eceb452-1b45-11ec-8232-467626212178%7Cparentrq%3A0b23ec6817c0a44d1ce8ed45fff3f75c%7Ciid%3A1

[palikan]

The seller is not a fraud. I think he himself was deceived by the seller from whom he bought.

I informed this seller because I live in the same country and I do not want our country to be considered "liars", so I hope that it will cancel this auction before its end.

Pavel

[Paul K]

I’ve never said or assumed that he/she is a scammer with 100% green light on the profile ( although the bid is kind of red flag but who knows, maybe someone wants a good deal purchase) Just wanted to point out so one won’t be highly disappointed getting a male at very high cost

[foxxdoc]

shouldn't it be obvious if is a male or female ? genitalia !!!!!!!!

TOM

[Paul K]

Sept 23, 2021 6:34:31 GMT -8 foxxdoc said:

shouldn't it be obvious if is a male or female ? genitalia !!!!!!!!

TOM

It should, but not anymore.This is political subject and I will not continue with this topic here on insect forum.
Now in terms of this specimen it is definitely a male.

[trehopr1]

Hey Paul, you made an astute observation about this species females (regarding the wings); about 3 years ago on our sister forum.

I will let you elaborate on your keen observation.

Genitalia are not always easy to see in photographs and although the species is readily dimorphic in size between the sexes; some scammers try to sell off small males or "doctored" specimens as females.

[borearctia]

Hi Pavel (Palikan),
was there a any reaction/response from the seller?
The P. antimachus was sold for 610 USD. (2 bids).
If the seller was informed that it was only a male, then I find that very disappointing.
The post should then be moved to the insect trading reports.

[palikan]

Hi,
the seller thanked me for the warning and promised to check this butterfly. If he finds out that this butterfly is male, he will return the money to the buyer.
I believe that in the end it will turn out well for the buyer and the money will be returned to him.

Pavel

[trehopr1]

Honest mistakes happen...

When they happen to people who are "good at heart" then the mistakes are corrected and all is right with the world.