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Post by thejsonboss on Jun 1, 2021 6:27:02 GMT -8
Went out to LA memorial weekend to try and find King's hairstreak and some wetland bugs. I was somewhat successful, but hurricane damage had wrecked a lot of habitat. I was also a little late for some of it.
Grant Parish 5/29 (mostly cloudy)
Satyrium kingi - 1
Lethe creole - 1
unidentified lethe sp - 2
Megisto cymela
Cyllopsis gemma
Erynnis horatius
Wallengrenia otho
Leminitis arthemis
Papilio troilus
Battus philenor
Phyciodes tharos
St Landry Parish 5/30 (sunny)
Euphyes dukesi - 5
Ancyloxypha numitor - 2
Erynnis horatius
Polygonia interrogationis
Junonia coenia
Danaus plexippus
Vanessa cardui
Phyciodes tharos
Megisto cymela
Papilio cresphontes
Papilio glaucus
Papilio troilus
Strymon melinus
Vernon Parish 5/30 (sunny)
Neonympha aerolatus - 10ish
Megisto cymela
Cyllopsis gemma
Hermeyeuptchia sosybius
Leminitis arthemis
Libytheana carienta
Oligoria maculata - 1
Wallengrenia otho
Wallengrenia egeremet
Erynnis horatius
Euphyes vestris
Papilio troilus
Papilio palamedes
Papilio glaucus
Eurytides marcellus
Strymon melinus
Vernon parish 5/31 (partly cloudy)
Hesperia meskei - 1 (alleged early record for LA)
Euphyes vestris
Wallengrenia egeremet
Wallengrenia otho
Nastra lherminier
Hylephila phyleus
Thorybes bathyllus
Erynnis horatius
Pyrisitia lisa
Phoebis sennae
Leminitis arthemis
Vanessa virginiensis
Junonia coenia
Cyllopsis gemma
H. sosybius
Megnisto cymela
Neonympha aerolatus - 4
Papilio troilus
Papilio glaucus
Battus philenor
Stymon melinus
calycopis cecrops
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Post by Adam Cotton on Jun 1, 2021 7:43:03 GMT -8
Great to see scientific names being used. Field report lists which only use 'common names' are pretty useless for non-locals like me. To clarify, I have no objection to using both sets of names but without scientific names the lists mean nothing to me, and presumably to many other readers.
Adam.
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Post by thejsonboss on Jun 1, 2021 8:33:32 GMT -8
I get complaints both directions, but have decided to stop posting to things where I get complaints for not using common names. Too lazy to write both
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Post by leptraps on Jun 1, 2021 8:58:05 GMT -8
I only use scientific names. Never got into common names. Too many errors. I grew up using Scientific Names. Then in the mid-1990's, NABA dumped the use of Scientific names after several big go arounds. I have always used a mixture of Scientific and Common names.
The NABA factor in South Florida came to an end on the Sugar Ridge on May 22, 2000. Why do I remember that day? It was my 50th Birthday.
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Post by exoticimports on Jun 1, 2021 10:31:49 GMT -8
Like to see some of you papilio glaucus. There has been discussion lately concerning the range of ssp Maynardi.
Chuck
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Post by thejsonboss on Jun 1, 2021 11:03:52 GMT -8
Like to see some of you papilio glaucus. There has been discussion lately concerning the range of ssp Maynardi. Chuck I only took one specimen, but would be happy to share it once pinned |
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Post by jhyatt on Jun 2, 2021 4:16:32 GMT -8
thejsonboss,
Good to see that you found E. dukesi and H. meskei flying - both are great catches! I hunted the relict rice fields of coastal GA on May 15 and found none of the big swamp
skippers flying - no Problema bulenta, Poanes viator, E. dukesi, dion, etc. A single P. byssus was my best catch. Most puzzling. Pickerel weed was not blooming
in one of my best spots, but was in full bloom elsewhere but bare of big skippers. Spring has been exceedingly dry there.
Do you find Euphyes bayensis in your area?
Cheers,
jh
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Post by thejsonboss on Jun 2, 2021 6:28:50 GMT -8
thejsonboss, Good to see that you found E. dukesi and H. meskei flying - both are great catches! I hunted the relict rice fields of coastal GA on May 15 and found none of the big swamp skippers flying - no Problema bulenta, Poanes viator, E. dukesi, dion, etc. A single P. byssus was my best catch. Most puzzling. Pickerel weed was not blooming in one of my best spots, but was in full bloom elsewhere but bare of big skippers. Spring has been exceedingly dry there. Do you find Euphyes bayensis in your area? Cheers, jh Sorry to hear about that. This year is very hit or miss in general. Some places have shockingly low numbers while others seem to be ok (freeze impact?). Every trip out is pretty much a gamble, but at least the timing of everything seems to be back to normal. Bayensis is fairly near to me yes. It was going to be a trip target, but I was informed that several photographers had visited the coastal wetlands and there was a lot of saltwater intrusion from the previous year's hurricanes that had really damaged the skipper populations down there so I am waiting until the July/September flight for things to recover. I'll let you know if I ever have any success. |
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Post by gaspipe on Jun 2, 2021 10:43:42 GMT -8
Fantastic report . I will say as non- entomologist I have to look up most to see what you are collecting. One complaint and it’s not to be derogatory , but this forum should promote the “ hobby “ to the rookies a little more. It gets a bit snooty at times.
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Post by thejsonboss on Jun 2, 2021 11:48:59 GMT -8
Fantastic report . I will say as non- entomologist I have to look up most to see what you are collecting. One complaint and it’s not to be derogatory , but this forum should promote the “ hobby “ to the rookies a little more. It gets a bit snooty at times. Well it's an international forum so it makes sense to use international names, but I do agree that the forum should be more welcoming to amateurs. I'll try to not be lazy and post both next time, at least for the notable finds. (For clarity I'm not an expert either, I just happened to have been "raised" by them to say the latin. Saying common names would get me forty lashes) |
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Post by bandrow on Jun 6, 2021 8:25:17 GMT -8
Hi All,
I hope my "rant" about common names under the thread about ironclad beetles didn't give the impression that I was scolding folks for using common names, or that it might have been to force the use of Latin names over common names - that wasn't my intention.
I do recognize that common names have been more regularly used for some taxa - especially Lepidoptera. Even I will recount seeing a "luna moth" rather than using Actias luna after a night at the sheets. The common names for many butterflies and moths are often more well-established and more familiar in usage than are their Latin names. Using the common names in conjunction with their Latin ones is a great way to list things - allowing folks of all interest levels (or location on the planet) access to the information.
For other lineages, my discomfort comes when scientists decide to conjure from scratch a common name for every species in a group for the sole purpose of displacing the scientific names for use as a common "language". In the example I gave for tiger beetles - there were only a dozen or so common names in use for a period long enough to become familiar. By creating all the new "common" names, it all just became muddled.
As a coleopterist, I may be biased to some extent, but it's based on the sheer diversity at hand. One of my favorite genera is Phyllophaga - the 'May beetles', or in some areas "junebugs", consisting of nearly 400 species in North America alone. A common name for each would be impractical, so solely using the Latin name is the only way to deal with them. For the invasive Agrilus planipennis, it's more familiar to use 'emerald ash borer', but for the other 150+ species of native Agrilus, common names would be useless.
So, I guess it depends on the intended usage of the name to decide if common names or Latin names are used, and where appropriate, use both in conjunction with one another. In the case of the field reports, using both is best to allow everyone to see what was flying using names with which they are familiar. Hopefully, this clarified my intentions, and hopefully didn't muddle them further!!
Cheers!
Bandrow
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Post by kevinkk on Jun 6, 2021 10:50:40 GMT -8
I'll add my last excursion to this thread. Linn county Oregon, Lost Lake- there were wildfires last fall. Detroit Lake still looks like
it was hit with napalm.
My choice location was roadblocked.
Second locale, nearly impassable, hot, hardly anything flying, one Smerinthus cerisyi male, and a lot of micro moths, I brought home
only 2, as yet unidentified, I'll spread them later today.
The drive was ominous, usually I'll see Papilio eurymedon and whites along the road, not a thing for 150 miles.
I'd been wondering how the fires had effected the area, now I know.
There were a lot of mosquitos-
I might go out to the area again in late summer for beetles, maybe.
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Post by leptraps on Jun 6, 2021 11:35:16 GMT -8
Like to see some of you papilio glaucus. There has been discussion lately concerning the range of ssp Maynardi. Chuck With the grief that I sustain whenever I post photos of Lepidopteta that I collect or drawers of specimens from my collection, I decline to post photo's of any of my collection of Lepidoptera. Send me an email and I will send some photographs of Papilio glaucus Maynardi. Leptraps@aol.com |
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