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Post by livingplanet3 on Apr 6, 2021 6:44:02 GMT -8
Yesterday, I prepared a batch of bait (apple, banana, sugar, water) as per the recipe described by leptraps, sealed in a 1 gallon Ziploc bag, and set out in the sun. If the afternoon temperatures are exceeding 80 F, I wonder how long it will take for fermentation to start up? Several days, maybe?
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Post by leptraps on Apr 6, 2021 9:04:00 GMT -8
At 80°F the fermenting processing should begin. And begin quickly.
While living in Central Kentucky, I did not see my first Catocala moth until mid-to-late June. I will not see my Catocala until early July here in North East Ohio.
I am traveling to Killdeer Plains WA. I have four (4) Bait Traps to check and I will set out my first Sessidea Pheromone Traps.
I saw several butterflies this AM and I managed to collect two (2). A male Pieris rapae and a male Colias eurytheme. .
I also observed a large male Red Tailed Hawk (Buteo jamaicensis).
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Post by livingplanet3 on Apr 6, 2021 9:27:53 GMT -8
At 80°F the fermenting processing should begin. And begin quickly. While living in Central Kentucky, I did not see my first Catocala moth until mid-to-late June. I will not see my Catocala until early July here in North East Ohio. I am traveling to Killdeer Plains WA. I have four (4) Bait Traps to check and I will set out my first Sessidea Pheromone Traps. I saw several butterflies this AM and I managed to collect two (2). A male Pieris rapae and a male Colias eurytheme. . I also observed a large male Red Tailed Hawk (Buteo jamaicensis). I'm planning to get the trap set up in an ideal spot in the next day or two - will post updates on my progress; hoping to get some good specimens of Anaea andria and Nymphalis antiopa. I assume that these traps, although designed for Lepidoptera, also attract some kinds of beetles? There are several species here at my place, including Plinthocoelium suaveolens, Purpuricenus linsleyi, Stenelytrana gigas and Trigonopeltastes delta, that I'm hoping will come to the fermenting fruit bait. In past years, I've found all four of these beetles on fermenting sap flows, on Texas red oak (Quercus buckleyi). I believe that some species of Buprestidae will also come to fruit baits?
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Post by leptraps on Apr 6, 2021 10:09:23 GMT -8
What type of Bait Trap do you plan on using. Inverted Funnel, Flat Bottom, Slotted Pan or Tropics Style? And, where will you deploy your Bait Traps?
While scrounging in the attic of my garage I found a box of four (4) old Flat Bottom Bait Traps with Plywood Flat Bottoms. I replaced the Plywood Flat Bottoms with HDPE plastic. I will have them all in the field and in use by Saturday.
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Post by livingplanet3 on Apr 6, 2021 10:37:52 GMT -8
What type of Bait Trap do you plan on using. Inverted Funnel, Flat Bottom, Slotted Pan or Tropics Style? And, where will you deploy your Bait Traps? While scrounging in the attic of my garage I found a box of four (4) old Flat Bottom Bait Traps with Plywood Flat Bottoms. I replaced the Plywood Flat Bottoms with HDPE plastic. I will have them all in the field and in use by Saturday. It's the flat bottom one shown at right, in this diagram. Planning to hang it on the border of some woods (on my own property), in an area where I've seen the butterflies every year.
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Post by leptraps on Apr 6, 2021 11:12:34 GMT -8
The Flat Bottom Bait Trap is the most effective. Virtually every Butterfly and/or Moth that visits the Bait is in the trap and the retention rate is about 75%. The retention rate for Catocala Moths is about 80%. However, that rate can very depending on the Bait and also depending where you are located!
The retention rate of the Slotted Pan Bait Trap is 90% or more.
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Post by livingplanet3 on Apr 6, 2021 11:52:37 GMT -8
The Flat Bottom is the most effective. Virtually every Butterfly and/or Moth the visits The Bait is in the trap and the retention rate is about 75%. The retention rate for Catocala Moths is about 80%. However, that rate can very depending on Bait and also depending where you are located! The retention rate of the Slotted Pan Bait Trap is 90% or more. I'll be checking the trap frequently, to see if it needs any adjustments to make it work more effectively. I've attached a 9" aluminum pie pan as a baffle on the nylon rope about a foot above the trap, which will hopefully prevent any squirrels from reaching it. I'll put some Vaseline on the baffle / rope too, if ants become an issue. Here's a photo of the bait pan (6.75" diameter X 1.25" high), in the trap. There's about a 1.25" gap around the pan's edge (the opening in the bottom of the screen is 8" in diameter). The vertical gap between the wooden base and the bottom of the screen enclosure is around 2". Will that do? -
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Post by leptraps on Apr 6, 2021 13:16:51 GMT -8
I always design my Bait Traps to have the Bait up into the trap cylinder. The natural motion of insects ( All Insects) is upward.
Where are you located?
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Post by livingplanet3 on Apr 6, 2021 15:39:53 GMT -8
I always design my Bait Traps to have the Bait up into the trap cylinder. The natural motion of insects ( All Insects) is upward. Where are you located? I actually folded the lip of that aluminum bait pan down, to decrease its diameter - if I bend it back up, it would probably reach a bit higher than the level of the cylinder's opening. If not, I can just place something under the pan to get it to the right height. North Texas.
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Post by exoticimports on Apr 7, 2021 8:13:10 GMT -8
Ok stupid question. If the bait were dead fish or urine would it attract some North American papilio?
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Post by Paul K on Apr 7, 2021 9:05:40 GMT -8
Ok stupid question. If the bait were dead fish or urine would it attract some North American papilio? I don't remember to have Papilio coming to dead fish in the tropics. They do mud puddling here in N.America so I suppose urine could attract them. I did use it but of course with much lower success here and there was no Papilio around to come at the first place. What did become attracted was Lycaenidae and Nymphaildae.
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Post by livingplanet3 on Apr 7, 2021 10:14:09 GMT -8
Ok stupid question. If the bait were dead fish or urine would it attract some North American papilio? Wouldn't that be more likely to attract certain kinds of Nymphalidae? I've only ever seen Papilio on flowers. Of course, that might not be true of Papilo in the tropics.
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Post by exoticimports on Apr 7, 2021 10:32:17 GMT -8
In New England some species such as papilio glaucus don’t have many flowers to feed on. They love lilac. I used to see them on rhododendron, but oddly not any more. They will stop at wild rose, but not stay long. Never seen them on tulip, or other wildflowers. They will feed at the shoreline on dead stuff.
Polyxenes in spring will go down into the grasses for wildflowers, but glaucus will not. Troilus is relegated to summer only.
Chuck
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Post by Paul K on Apr 7, 2021 11:52:33 GMT -8
I’ve seen P.glaucus, cresphontes and canadensis mud puddling in Ontario many times, never polyxenes but I suppose it does too. Tropical Papilionidae all do come to urine (mud puddling) with great numbers but only males of course.
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Post by leptraps on Apr 7, 2021 17:41:43 GMT -8
Personally, I have never tried dead fish, dead horse, pig poop or worthless politicians. That is a list of vile stuff. I have often thought that "Narf" would be fantastic.
I am 76 years of age, an extremely active Lepidipterist. I attempt to demonstrate how to collect, rear, prepare and properly store and curate a collection of Lepidoptera.
I post my field activities, the where, the how, and the why. I do so with the hope that someone will benefit from what I write.
I am off to bed. Must be up early. I have a date tomorrow morning for Breakfeast with a delightful young lady. Then off to Killdeer Plains WA.
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