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Post by admin on Apr 23, 2011 13:17:29 GMT -8
Hey everybody, I'm letting a few ads go up from Cameroon now and then. Mainly because I'm getting tired of blocking their IP addresses. It's an endless task. And also because a few of them may be legit. You never know. Anyone who has been around on InsectNet for a couple of years will know to excercise caution with these Cameroonian dealers. Tell us if you find a good one. (But then again, why would you tell us?)  |
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Post by antroherpon on Apr 26, 2011 10:56:39 GMT -8
Clark, this one advertising Dynastes hercules, Goliathus and Chelorrhina in living beetles is using pictures from web.
And he is probably first sucesfull breeder of Dynastes hercules in Africa ;D
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Post by admin on Apr 26, 2011 11:45:40 GMT -8
You mean 'terry williams'? I see it now. I missed that obvious inconsistency. Thanks.
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Post by starlightcriminal on May 3, 2011 5:41:14 GMT -8
Why is that everyone shifty is from Cameroon in this market? I know there are desirable things there but Nigeria is right next door and has a lot of interaction therein, why always from Cameroon? I'm sure the Nigerian powerhouse can take advantage of the local insect populations as well but always we discover the scam is being run from Cameroon. It's much poorer, maybe this mode of survival is more culturally pervasive or this "trick" hasn't been spread around yet? I got a few "Nigerian princess needs your bank account number and personal identification information so she can deposit her treasure in your account" emails before but nothing specific and targeted at a certain community like we see with the Cameroonian insect scams here.
I have several friends who are native Cameroonian here in the US and in the UK and they are perfectly friendly and honest people as one would assume about the world's population at large. Why so many insect-specific scams being run out of Cameroon?
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Post by starlightcriminal on May 3, 2011 5:46:41 GMT -8
I guess I should correct and not say "everyone" as there are a good deal of other scams going on too. I meant to investigate the high ratio of Cameroonian scams vs. scams elsewhere. Anyone able to figure out if it is just a few people responsible for all of it, like an insect trading scammer ring or something? The guy I heard from is "Edwin Nsakse" from Duaola.
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Post by admin on May 5, 2011 22:22:50 GMT -8
I have wondered about this too. Why not Nigerian insect scams? The big prize is Goliathus. Maybe they are not as plentiful in Nigeria or maybe the wildlife export laws are more strict.
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Post by proflek2011 on May 14, 2011 7:22:38 GMT -8
It is true presently we have many people in Cameroon in the insect Biz scam. One possible reason is that we have many jobless university graduates in the streets who are very experienced with the use of internet. So they are misusing it to get their 'daily bread'. But this is no excuse for i do not support and will never support scamming as it makes it very difficult for many to trust any dealer in cameroon.
Please there are still some Good people in Cameroon in the insect Biz. You just have to be carefull when dealing with a Cameroonian dealer for the first time. Most of them are internet insect dealers who have never gone to the field to collect a bug.
At the same time Cameroon has an open door immigraration policy. So many of these scammers in Cameroon can eaqually be immigrants from other countries, even Nigeria as we have a large Nigerian community in Cameroon.
Proflek
Cameroon.
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Post by starlightcriminal on May 16, 2011 8:45:37 GMT -8
The question is not whether being Cameroonian makes a person dishonest- the question is why, be they native Cameroonian, Nigerian, Chinese or Inuit, are the scams run through the country of Cameroon. Why not just run the scam from Nigeria or the like? Is it a regulation issue?
There are jobless, computer literate people all over the world, including the US. But I have not run into an insect scam that asked me send money to Algeria before, only Cameroon. I personally wonder if there is more exposure to insect trade in that country so the idea popped up there first or if it simply that regulations are strict enough nearby to make any offerings automatically suspicious, as with certain Ornithoptera. Maybe it is just that Goliathus is the most valuable and happens to be found most often there. Just curious.
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Post by dertodesking on May 16, 2011 11:40:24 GMT -8
The question is not whether being Cameroonian makes a person dishonest- the question is why, be they native Cameroonian, Nigerian, Chinese or Inuit, are the scams run through the country of Cameroon. Why not just run the scam from Nigeria or the like? Is it a regulation issue? There are jobless, computer literate people all over the world, including the US. But I have not run into an insect scam that asked me send money to Algeria before, only Cameroon. I personally wonder if there is more exposure to insect trade in that country so the idea popped up there first or if it simply that regulations are strict enough nearby to make any offerings automatically suspicious, as with certain Ornithoptera. Maybe it is just that Goliathus is the most valuable and happens to be found most often there. Just curious. It's not just insects though...a friend of mine breeds snakes and is a member of several herp forums. After advertising for some species of snake he's looking for he tells me he's been inundated by emails from Cameroon offering wild caught snakes that don't even come from Africa let alone Cameroon!!! I don't know what it is but the majority of these sort of scams certainly do seem to come from Cameroon. Simon |
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Post by wollastoni on May 17, 2011 5:15:04 GMT -8
There must be a Cameroonian School of Scamming with many students... and it might pay more than other Public University.
As Profleck says, the current economic problems in Cameroon make this big scam industry possible. A Cameroonian guy found a way to make easy money from stupid Western people like us, and he taught his friends how to do like him...
But be sure other countries with no law enforcement will soon follow...
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Post by antroherpon on May 17, 2011 10:11:43 GMT -8
This is not limited to the Cameroon only (although Cameroon is leading). Tanzania and Uganda we must add to this group as well.
There are 3 groups of scammers:
Type A: Somebody will pay for this insect. Forests are full of them.
Just later is disovering fact that forests are full, but not always, and pack and ship them ist another question ....
Many peoples from Africa are simple not planning and calculating with problems that can occur.
Type B: I exported good quality and somebody did not paid for it (rest). So I am not obligate to ship to dozen of other custromers {they are living on same continent so they must be friends of that bastard) not only cover my loss, but get 10x more...
Type C (like Cameroon). I do not have anything, but I am in land where are living creatures and somebody far away is ready pay for them. So I need actively find those idiots and get as much money as possible ...
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Post by admin on May 17, 2011 14:56:04 GMT -8
Or could it be that Cameroon has a better internet infrastructure than the other countries. Easier access through many internet cafes?
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Post by wollastoni on May 17, 2011 22:54:18 GMT -8
Well there are internet cafes in most of African cities now.
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Post by starlightcriminal on May 23, 2011 9:50:45 GMT -8
Yes, most of the so-called "unindustrialized" nations skipped right over the primitive dial up crap and took to the internet when companies like Virgin, Verizon and the like set up cellular monopolies on each continent. Now I can whip out my cell phone and call someone at the top of the Massif de la Hotte after riding a mule for three hours to get there. I don't think South Africa, for example, is any less internet savvy or has any fewer highly impoverished people than Cameroon. I sort of think it has something to do with the political end- the other countries mentioned are all under established governments, at least since the internet revolution happened. Cameroon is somewhat fragmented to this day and may not have a government capable or interested in dealing with this type of international crime. Just a guess though.
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