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Post by maplematt22 on Feb 24, 2021 3:25:01 GMT -8
Hi, I decided to start Lycaenidae collection, but the group is huge and Id like to specialize on some genu, sp. Id mainly collect Armenia, Georgia, Postsoviet republics, Russia, maybe Iran. Basically Palaearktic species, any help to solve my issue is very much appreciated. Thank You very much in advance!
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Post by nomihoudai on Feb 24, 2021 4:14:37 GMT -8
Hi Matt, for which purpose do you want to collect? In that area there is the genus Agrodiaetus which is very diverse in colors and species rich. In general, this area has a lot of Polyommatinae that live in grasslands. Of course you are not the first one looking at that group. There is plenty of literature available.
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Post by nomihoudai on Feb 24, 2021 7:15:37 GMT -8
Adding to my previous reply. Looking at that region you might also find the genus Lycaena interesting. Both Lycaena and Agrodiaetus have a larger interest among collectors, so you might find people to trade/buy/sell them. Most of the other stuff is not of general interest to collectors. Also, if you are in that area I would suggest that you collect Colias that you come across. Even when they don't interest you, you can find people interested in them. There is some hairstreaks in that area too (Callophrys for example and Satyrium), but they fly at odd times in the year and some need longer net poles to reach them. Also check out the genus Tomares, they are localized, but collectors will like those a lot. There is books on Agrodiaetus by Eckweiler, either in the Tshikolovets series or the Bolzano series.
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Post by miguel on Feb 24, 2021 8:05:51 GMT -8
It´s curious that someone specializes his activity in Lycaenidae,I know people that doesn´t want Lycaenidae or Hesperidae due to their small size.
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Post by Paul K on Feb 24, 2021 8:07:58 GMT -8
It´s curious that someone specializes his activity in Lycaenidae,I know people that doesn´t want Lycaenidae or Hesperidae due to their small size. How about microlepidoptera ? 🤪 |
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Post by nomihoudai on Feb 24, 2021 8:20:59 GMT -8
It´s curious that someone specializes his activity in Lycaenidae,I know people that doesn´t want Lycaenidae or Hesperidae due to their small size. I collected a fair amount of Lycaenidae for a long time. I liked that they take little space in drawers. Also their variety in colors and shape are amazing. I had thousands of them from South East Asia. They are also fairly common in Europe. But yes, there never was a large number of other collectors to trade with. If you want something showy and nice from the Caucasus area I can definitely recommend the genus Lycaena. I used to do local faunistics of microlepidoptera, so Lycaena where quite large compared to my previous experience. I loved the genus Phyllonorycter and would collect their pupae from oak leaf mines. |
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Post by miguel on Feb 24, 2021 8:27:06 GMT -8
Sorry I made a mistake answering to your message:
In one of my lasts exchanges the man with I made that exchange told me that He wanted all kind of Palearctic butterflies less Lycaenidae,He told me that they are very small to manage it,here in Spain the biggest Lycaena is Iolana debilitata with less than 5 centimeters.
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Post by kevinkk on Feb 24, 2021 8:30:29 GMT -8
There are specialists for every insect species, genus ,family.
A lot of smaller lepidoptera are very pretty, and interesting.
Just looking through a list of entomology books will be an eye
opener.
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Post by nomihoudai on Feb 24, 2021 8:48:56 GMT -8
I don't deny what you are saying miguel. It is true, I also was told very often that people don't bother or collect Lycaenidae as they are too small or fiddly. So if sharing with others is one of the things that matt is looking for, I would suggest to not look beyond the genera I mentioned. |
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