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Post by yorky on Oct 17, 2020 3:38:32 GMT -8
As I've been working from home for the majority of the last 9 months and still suffering from the after effects of a horrendous experience with covid entomology has taken a back seat somewhat. However I have just spread/set 16 agrias/prepona hybrids (whichever part of the world you're from) and started to get around to getting my self caught reference collection into some kind of order. Most if these are locally caught and bred and I'm not too fussy about the condition of the specimens as it's mainly data I've been collecting. There are quite a few forms and abberations in there that I've picked up on my travels that make it even more valuable, to me at least. My collection is split into 6 main divisions, exotic, historic exotic (made up entirely of specimens from collectors such as Fruhstorfer, Meek, Doherty, Pratt brothers, Leech etc), European, historic British, British  and self caught. |
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Post by yorky on Oct 17, 2020 3:40:55 GMT -8
Local satyridae and pieridae Attachments:
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Post by yorky on Oct 17, 2020 3:42:44 GMT -8
Local nymphalidae and satyridae Attachments:
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Post by yorky on Oct 17, 2020 3:44:01 GMT -8
Local pieridae and lycaenidae Attachments:
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Post by yorky on Oct 17, 2020 3:45:11 GMT -8
Local nymphalidae Attachments:
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Post by yorky on Oct 17, 2020 3:46:23 GMT -8
Local lycaenidae, hespiridae and nemeobidae Attachments:
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Post by Paul K on Oct 17, 2020 6:45:25 GMT -8
Self caught material is priceless, even a common species.
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Post by kevinkk on Oct 17, 2020 8:15:27 GMT -8
I don't want to hijack the thread, but what do you mean by "self-caught"?
I never purchase dry material, so everything I net, is technically self-caught.
To me, it's the butterflies or moths that fly into my greenhouse and get trapped, I've had
Hyles lineata, and Papilio zelicaon catch themselves on 3 or 4 respective occasions.
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Post by nomihoudai on Oct 17, 2020 8:20:29 GMT -8
Self caught means caught by the collector. The other ways to get material is to trade or to purchase it. You can also breed specimen. Every way has pros and cons.
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Post by gaspipe on Oct 17, 2020 8:35:20 GMT -8
Thank you for sharing. Nice collection. To me that many of your specimens were caught by you makes it all the better. Anyone can buy specimens ; doing the research to find the correct habitat, catching the specimens and then preparing them is what , in my opinion makes it special .
My prayers on your continued recovery.
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Post by yorky on Oct 17, 2020 9:54:17 GMT -8
Self caught or caught by self ie me
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Post by kevinkk on Oct 17, 2020 15:53:30 GMT -8
Thanks, I suppose I assumed as much. For me, it's self caught then, bred or bought as livestock. I'm not a completist when it comes to my
collection-of insects, and am just lazy enough to not go through the relaxing process for dry material.
But, there are a lot of great things out there that can only be obtained as dry material, maybe if I had more space, I'd change my
mind about it.
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Post by exoticimports on Oct 17, 2020 16:36:21 GMT -8
Self caught material is priceless, even a common species. As can be observed in the Tiger Swallowtail thread, specimens of this common species are of scientific value. Others may not be today, but may well be in the future. Many of my specimens can no longer be found at the point of capture. BTW personal observation, I enjoy photos of one or two specimens better than entire drawers Chuck |
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Post by yorky on Oct 18, 2020 1:51:52 GMT -8
My main motivation in putting this small collection together was that good collecting spots from my local area are disappearing at an alarming rate, housing estates and industrial estates are appearing everywhere. Those areas that are not built upon have already prohibited all collecting and are manned by very aggressive tree huggers.Soon all the species that have a very local distribution will be gone and there will be no record of them ever having existed there at all unless I made a record by capturing a small series with accurate data.
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Post by exoticimports on Oct 18, 2020 6:47:10 GMT -8
My main motivation in putting this small collection together was that good collecting spots from my local area are disappearing at an alarming rate, housing estates and industrial estates are appearing everywhere. Those areas that are not built upon have already prohibited all collecting and are manned by very aggressive tree huggers.Soon all the species that have a very local distribution will be gone and there will be no record of them ever having existed there at all unless I made a record by capturing a small series with accurate data. One of the projects on my list is to visit my childhood collecting sites and take photos of the "now". Sadly, the photos will be housing tracts and mostly-empty strip malls. The field loaded with E borealis is houses, as is the peach orchard where drunken nymphalids congregated. The rolling hill with wonderful speyeria is a defunct Kmart; the valley from which my lights drew saturnids and sphingids is an office park. Look at the distribution maps for Butterfliesandmoths.org for any give species and you'll see two types of location dots- "historical" and "detailed" records, and you'll note that the historical records reach far wider than the recent "detailed" records. Much of this can be attributed to ecological destruction thanks to suburban sprawl. Chuck |
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