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Post by joniverson on Jul 26, 2020 15:25:10 GMT -8
Sure looks like it! Very allergic to it & this is growing up between sidewalk cracks.
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Post by jshuey on Jul 26, 2020 16:36:58 GMT -8
yup.
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Post by wingedwishes on Jul 26, 2020 19:57:14 GMT -8
Most assuredly. I actually allow it on my property as It does not affect me, my father, my children or grandchildren. I don't know qhy exept maybe genetics. Beautiful foliage in the Fall. If you want rid of it, there can be a battle. Root tissue left behind an pop up any time.
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Post by exoticimports on Jul 27, 2020 3:32:25 GMT -8
You can kill it with Roundup, which may also effect other plants nearby.
Or, look online for a spray mix; typically vinegar (or other) and water, mixed with a bit of soap to keep it on the leaves. By denying the plant energy it supposedly kills the plant. I have had very limited success. I even painted a huge plant with black spraypaint, figuring that would absorb sunlight and kill it- it did nothing.
Chuck
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Post by jhyatt on Jul 27, 2020 7:26:50 GMT -8
I seem to remember reading in some old book that Argema mittrei can be reared on poison ivy... anybody know if that's true?
jh
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Post by Deleted on Jul 27, 2020 9:03:10 GMT -8
John,
I remember that book.......Paul Villard’s ......“Moths and How to Rear Them” from back in the 70s. And yes...he did mention that as a food source for A. mitteri. Btw.....enjoyed hooking up w you last week w Eric. Nothing major came in after you left.
I AM reactive/allergic to Poison Ivy and just recently found a small patch growing in my yard. Sprayed it w a spray specific to PI. When I was a kid, I could roll in the stuff, but now I have to pay attention.
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Post by joniverson on Jul 27, 2020 10:27:45 GMT -8
Before cutting the grass and weed treating today, I took a careful look around for any other suspicious plants. There was another, almost identical to what I pictured, except a little taller with mostly three leaves, but at the top there was five. I had almost forgotten about this, but I went through this same uncertainty three years ago with another three leaved plant that was actually a five leaf vine. This time, to be sure, I ordered some of these. Of course, I'd never use all of them so will share with some neighbors and a lawn mower service I used to use. I finished the yard work and left the suspicious area untouched until I find out for sure. |
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Post by exoticimports on Jul 27, 2020 13:00:35 GMT -8
Grape vine is not "hairy"
Poison Ivy vine is hairy.
So is Virginia Creeper. But Virginia Creeper has five leaves.
Just do a search
Chuck
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Post by Deleted on Jul 27, 2020 13:15:28 GMT -8
What was pictured is poison ivy. Research the other, but spray the pictured stuff........best done when young to kill the roots.
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Post by jshuey on Jul 27, 2020 14:49:32 GMT -8
What was pictured is poison ivy. Research the other, but spray the pictured stuff........best done when young to kill the roots. Or, you can just pull it out by the roots, and then wash your hands... Unless you are super sensitive, you have about an hour before you have to wash it off (I use dish soap and really hot water - wash like you have the corona-virus blues....) John |
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Post by joniverson on Jul 29, 2020 9:39:02 GMT -8
Just an update. The packets arrived today and I carefully crushed a leaf between the testing pad while wearing double gloves. It was hard to do, but some pink appeared on the pad. Enough for me to realize that it was in fact poison ivy! While there and already wearing the gloves, I pulled the plant out by the root. After tossing it in a container with double bagging and then put in the trash and washing my hands/ forearms thoroughly, I doused the area with some glyphosate solution I had already applied a couple of days ago. I find that the glyphosate kills just about everything and I have to be very careful applying or it kills the grass too.
One question: Now the plant is gone and the area treated, what about the grass near it, or soil particles brought out during the extraction that would now be on the sidewalk? Should I worry about that and clean it (if so, how?), or just let the rain take care of it now? In three months, I'll be raking and mowing over the same area during fall clean up. Thanks.
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Post by joniverson on Jul 29, 2020 9:42:30 GMT -8
Grape vine is not "hairy" Poison Ivy vine is hairy. So is Virginia Creeper. But Virginia Creeper has five leaves. Just do a search Chuck
Maybe the plant was too young, but it definitely wasn't hairy. I do also have some Virginia Creeper in the yard and find that it sometimes only has three leaves for a while as it grows. That's what was confusing me.
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Post by jhyatt on Jul 29, 2020 14:43:15 GMT -8
Billgarth,
Yes, it was indeed Villiard's "Moths and How to Rear Them". I still have the book and looked it up after my post - my memory was correct for a change. I still wonder of Argema would
rear on P.I. I suppose living in this freeish country, we won't ever be allowed to find out.
I bought that book new for a few bucks at a department store book department (yes, there used to be such things!) in Knoxville, TN at about age 12 or 13. Also then I
got Moucha's "Beautiful Butterflies" which I also still have. Lovely paintings in the latter book. To buy them I had to borrow from my Mom, and owed several lawn mowings for the books.
Cheers,
John
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Post by Deleted on Aug 31, 2020 15:18:11 GMT -8
I got my Villard book in 1976 while visiting the Smithsonian in the gift shop. Our family got a behind the scenes tour of the Entom. Dept. bc my dad was a PhD Entomologist from NIU. That was a great trip with it being the bicentennial and all. I was a mere 17 at the time.....my how time has flown by.
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Post by exoticimports on Aug 31, 2020 17:58:12 GMT -8
I got my Villard book in 1976 while visiting the Smithsonian in the gift shop. Our family got a behind the scenes tour of the Entom. Dept. bc my dad was a PhD Entomologist from NIU. That was a great trip with it being the bicentennial and all. I was a mere 17 at the time.....my how time has flown by. My how I wish you’d have saved all those pre 1965 coins, bought a pair of Alexandrae, and gone collecting in Brazil. A 69 Mustang Shelby 500 wouldn’t hurt either. Poison ivy though is still freely abundant. I can send some if you wish. Ah, ‘76. Jimmy Carter, Iran hostage, edmunds Fitzgerald. Well I may not be exact to the year, but it was a nicer time. That was the year my buddy showed me his Eacles imperialis, I was in awe. Well wrong thread, but anyway....my Villard book came via an antique book store circa 1985. |
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