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Post by jshuey on May 26, 2020 10:36:08 GMT -8
Can anyone decipher these labels? The top two are the same, and have to be a high-altitude Andes location (based on the Dalla specimen). The bottom one ?? Most of the data was recorded as "location, province". So, if the right-hand squiggle is province, then it has to be Napo. I'm guessing that these came from one of those "Tom Emmel Tours" so perhaps some of you have been to these spots? (This is why, if you ever trade bugs with me, you get a pre-printed data label with every bug I send out!) John
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Post by bandrow on May 26, 2020 14:07:32 GMT -8
Hi John, I saw 'Iuacamayor' in the bottom one, but a Google search produced "Guacamayo" and then I found this link: Guacamayo . This is all guess-work, but hopefully something in this will end up being a clue to the real locality... No suggestions for the first one - I thought the first letter might be a 'C', but that goes nowhere... Cheers! Bandrow
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Post by exoticimports on May 27, 2020 4:14:02 GMT -8
Hi John, Expedition travel had two trips to Ecuador in 1998, in March and October. Both went to Yasuni, but the earlier one also went somewhere else. We went over the Andes- it was bloody cold. Try as I might, I cannot find a place name for the first two- because I can't read them. I read the first word as "Cocodes" of "Cocoele". I see this as three words- "Coco" something, ending with "Napo". The middle one I suggest may be to "to" or "los" meaning the first word may not be a place, but a transportation method or direction. Trying to figure this out I blew up a map, but couldn't match a close name. That said, it may be a tiny village that doesn't show up. In October 1998 (noting different trip) we left Quito on E28 then E20. Did they follow the same route? I don't know; probably. Actually, now that I think of it, I'm pretty sure they flew into Napo, whereas we took the bus trip from hell. I do remember that some of the March 1998 group got there earlier and spent some time collecting "locally" because I remember them talking about catching many Megasoma. The onsite coordinator was Dr. Patricio Ponce of Catholic University. Maybe you can find him on LinkedIn or somewhere and ask? www.troplep.org/OCR%201998%20No.%201%20March.pdfHow is that for a non-answer? Chuck
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Post by jshuey on May 27, 2020 7:36:09 GMT -8
It dawned on me to ask "mister Ecuador" - Keith Willmott. As Bob guessed Guacamayo is correct - but more specifically Cordillera de los Guacamayos. The top triangles are "Cocodrilo, which is the ranger station for PN Sumaco on the Baeza-Tena" at 1,800m.
Once you know, you can see it. But I personally never would have hit either place based on that handwriting!
John
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Post by exoticimports on May 27, 2020 9:12:57 GMT -8
Awesome you got that!
A long time ago I got hundreds of very old specimens written in old Spanish letters and all oily. They were illegible by everyone I showed them to, even the old timers. I can read very little pre 1900 German script, I always had to show it to my FIL who could still read it.
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Post by Paul K on May 27, 2020 14:25:07 GMT -8
It dawned on me to ask "mister Ecuador" - Keith Willmott. As Bob guessed Guacamayo is correct - but more specifically Cordillera de los Guacamayos. The top triangles are "Cocodrilo, which is the ranger station for PN Sumaco on the Baeza-Tena" at 1,800m. Once you know, you can see it. But I personally never would have hit either place based on that handwriting! John I actually did see Cocodrilo but I tried to search it and all I got was Crocodile and nothing forward to any location. Glad you could solve this mystery.
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