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Post by andresheleno on Jan 4, 2020 15:55:03 GMT -8
I read that Papilio antimachus is most poisonous specie of butterflye, can anyone tel me if it is true?
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Post by Adam Cotton on Jan 4, 2020 22:28:01 GMT -8
The body of Papilio antimachus contains cardenolides, but whether that makes it the most poisonous species of butterfly or not is unclear. Many butterfly species contain poisonous chemicals.
Adam.
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Post by lepidofrance on Jan 5, 2020 2:53:06 GMT -8
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Post by andresheleno on Jan 5, 2020 12:40:21 GMT -8
Thanks for reply!!! This specie is very interesting, i think is not rare but is very strange not find females since there are many males on sale on Ebay
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Post by papiliotheona on Jan 5, 2020 17:44:05 GMT -8
It's been suspected that monarchs have killed hungry hawks that have eaten enough of them (Monarch Program, ca. 1999).
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Post by leptraps on Jan 6, 2020 1:50:29 GMT -8
lepidofrance:
It has been a long time since I have read a post from you. I only collect North American material. Although I read almost everything on Insectnet, I will glance at some things without responding. However, I read almost everything from you, I have learned a thing or two from you.
I was on the European Insectnet, life is too short and there is way to much to read. I am only active on what I call,the New World Side.
Many moon's ago when I was active on both sides, I enjoyed reading posts and threads on the British Isle's and the relationship with the surrounding land masses. There were great conversations about the early Lepidopterists and where they collected. I miss those conversations. But as I have said, life is way too short.
Have you been to the tropics lately?
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Post by andresheleno on Jan 6, 2020 18:48:38 GMT -8
I never ben in tropics.
About monarchs, maybe they are poisonous buttefflyes to, the red color is a sign for predators.
Unfortunly all reseach and studies about this important species don t reach to the public and lost forever
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Post by africaone on Jan 7, 2020 0:26:32 GMT -8
that make dozen of years that one believe antimachus feed on Aristoloch despite nobody never confirmed it. I heared it for the first in beginning of the 90ies (but it is surely more ancient). A big expedition was contructed recently in CAR probably based on this info (and the discover of cardenolid in antimachus body), with press campain, social media, etc. with the aim to find the first instars. They unfortunetely failed (breeding and finding caterpillars in rain forest need a minimum of experience, and goodwill is not sufficient despite necessar).
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Post by andresheleno on Jan 7, 2020 1:41:10 GMT -8
Thanks!!! There are photos in the internet of the catterpilar from Papilio antimachus, someone already know is foodplant, maybe apears a good trap to catch the females
The problem is that people that live there don t take time to study this species, two or tree weeks to expedition is not enouth to find something
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Post by africaone on Jan 7, 2020 2:14:22 GMT -8
Thanks!!! There are photos in the internet of the catterpilar from Papilio antimachus, someone already know is foodplant, maybe apears a good trap to catch the females The problem is that people that live there don t take time to study this species, two or tree weeks to expedition is not enouth to find something where did you see this caterpillar ? Do you have a link ? the link www.backyardnature.net/yucatan/orangedg.htm is a kind of fake
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Post by andresheleno on Jan 7, 2020 9:35:37 GMT -8
Thank!!! It was that link, i never thought that was fake.
I supose that are no records of the caterpilar
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Post by Paul K on Jan 7, 2020 11:41:58 GMT -8
The link is not fake but the author used common name Giant swallowtail and relate it to Papilio antimachus ( African giant swallowtail ) but it is Papilio cresphontes which occurs in North America where the caterpillar was spotted. This is a caterpillar of P.cresphontes.
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Post by andresheleno on Jan 7, 2020 13:36:48 GMT -8
Thanks, the link is correct, unfortunly the information is not correct, a big mistake. The autor should fixed. Hoppe one day someone find the catterpilar and study better this specie. Entomologie have big misteries.
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Post by lepidofrance on Jan 8, 2020 1:47:24 GMT -8
lepidofrance: It has been a long time since I have read a post from you. I only collect North American material. Although I read almost everything on Insectnet, I will glance at some things without responding. However, I read almost everything from you, I have learned a thing or from you. I was on the European Insectnet, life is too short and there is way to much to read. I am only active on what I call,the New World Side. Many moon's ago when I was active on both sides, I enjoyed reading posts and threads on the British Isle's and the relationship with the surrounding land masses. There were great conversations about the early Lepidopterists and where they collected. I miss those conversations. But as I have said, life is way too short. Have you been to the tropics lately? Dear Leptraps, Yes, it's been a long time since I intervened on this forum. As you write, life is too short. This is why, I mainly frequent the other forum: The Insect collector forum. Yes, I have traveled several times in the Tropics this year: in French Guiana, in Laos and in Thailand, in Colombia and in Benin. On these pages, we will find some "memories" of these trips: www.lepidofrance.com/quelques-rhopaloceres-communs-du-benin/ collector-secret.proboards.com/thread/3157/back-colombia collector-secret.proboards.com/thread/3172/back-benin collector-secret.proboards.com/thread/3025/copula-before On the recent French expedition devoted to Papilio antimachus, see this web page (in French), even if the article is not relevant: www.lemonde.fr/afrique/article/2019/12/25/dans-les-forets-centrafricaines-la-traque-du-plus-grand-et-mysterieux-papillon-d-afrique_6024026_3212.html All the best, lepidofrance
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Post by africaone on Jan 8, 2020 1:53:11 GMT -8
how has been the foddplant identified ? Does anyone know how they do ?
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