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Post by garyw365 on Nov 17, 2018 13:00:06 GMT -8
Can I legally order birdwings off Ebay? Im in the UK and when I search I get quite a lot of results from Russia in the results.
I was under the impression I should only buy from EU sellers
Can anyone clarify.
Thanks
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Post by joachim on Nov 18, 2018 3:05:10 GMT -8
Hi,
I once ordered a urvilleanus as it was only 3 $. I asked for cites and I was told that it is possible at a extra money. I asked how much - no answer.
Be careful, if you a lucky, the customs do not care as they don´t know but maybe you get a lot of trouble. With a valid cites, it will be expensive so have a look at german dealers as Zöller or aureus butterflies. Anyway, I Russia you can buy cites as well as passports, driving licences and surely cites.
Joachim
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Post by garyw365 on Nov 18, 2018 12:01:24 GMT -8
Thanks very much for your advise. I think I will avoid.
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Post by wollastoni on Nov 19, 2018 2:14:38 GMT -8
Always buy Ornitho with CITES permits. The sellers indicated by skandinavisk are excellent indeed. You can also buy from outside EU, if sellers provide CITES permits. |
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Post by exoticimports on Nov 19, 2018 4:27:05 GMT -8
Always buy Ornitho with CITES permits. The sellers indicated by skandinavisk are excellent indeed. You can also buy from outside EU, if sellers provide CITES permits. Reputable, law compliant suppliers charge more for product because they are covering risks. Would you buy a BMW from an Ebay seller in Russia? No, then why buy insects? Reputable retailers have already suffered non-shipments, sorted through damaged specimens, and guarantee their product. This has a cost- in fact, a high cost. But look at the many collectors who complain about being ripped off. It's not worth the risk or stress. Just buy a quality specimen from a reputable dealer. Chuck |
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Post by wollastoni on Nov 19, 2018 5:19:54 GMT -8
Always buy Ornitho with CITES permits. The sellers indicated by skandinavisk are excellent indeed. You can also buy from outside EU, if sellers provide CITES permits. Reputable, law compliant suppliers charge more for product because they are covering risks. Would you buy a BMW from an Ebay seller in Russia? No, then why buy insects? Reputable retailers have already suffered non-shipments, sorted through damaged specimens, and guarantee their product. This has a cost- in fact, a high cost. But look at the many collectors who complain about being ripped off. It's not worth the risk or stress. Just buy a quality specimen from a reputable dealer. Chuck VERY well said, Chuck ! And our members can find many reputable dealers on Insectnet home banners : www.insectnet.com |
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Post by zarkanoz on Nov 19, 2018 9:42:09 GMT -8
Speaking of which, I just opened an email from a Russian seller to whom I asked a very unrelated and general question, and he offers me a pair of O.Alex, and a male O.Allotei. ::eyeroll::
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Post by Deleted on Nov 19, 2018 10:47:41 GMT -8
I speak from experience when I say that you do not want CITES officials at your door, the whole saga is brutal, upsetting and downright frightening, for the sake of a butterfly specimen, don't go anywhere near these people, you may get away with it once, twice or a dozen times but they do watch, they have nothing else to do.
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Post by wollastoni on Nov 20, 2018 0:50:17 GMT -8
Speaking of which, I just opened an email from a Russian seller to whom I asked a very unrelated and general question, and he offers me a pair of O.Alex, and a male O.Allotei. ::eyeroll:: Could I know who this seller is ? So that, I block him from facebook and forums. (in PM if you want) |
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Post by exoticimports on Nov 23, 2018 5:37:23 GMT -8
Speaking of which, I just opened an email from a Russian seller to whom I asked a very unrelated and general question, and he offers me a pair of O.Alex, and a male O.Allotei. ::eyeroll:: Alotei is relatively common these days. I’ve been offered it every time I’m in country. Local price is $500. But I have no need for it. |
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