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Post by LEPMAN on Nov 2, 2018 15:46:58 GMT -8
Good day all,
I’m looking for Hemileuca sp. near Indiana.
Anyone know where the closest location I can find Hemileuca at?
Any recommendations for specific spots??
Thanks in advance!
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Post by jshuey on Nov 3, 2018 10:08:53 GMT -8
Try some of the state forests in Harrison county, or along the knobs in Washington county. Dry oak forests are the key.
john
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Post by mothman27 on Nov 4, 2018 17:49:36 GMT -8
Just thought I would mention I have never seen Hemileuca here in northern Indiana.
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Post by jshuey on Nov 5, 2018 7:18:58 GMT -8
Just thought I would mention I have never seen Hemileuca here in northern Indiana. Northern Indiana populations are primarily wetland species and feed on willows. You should go to the old Pigeon River camp ground area around the millpond at Mongo - and you may have a chance. These are probably a different species than the oak feeders in southern Indiana - but they all look very similar (at least to me). John |
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Post by leptraps on Nov 5, 2018 8:51:03 GMT -8
I have reared Buck Moths Hemilueca "maia" from NW Ohio, Michigan City, Indiana (from a Dune area on Lake Michigan) Iroquois County, IN and I have collected specimens in Harrison State Forest and Hoosier NF in Harrison County in Southern Indiana. It is also found in numerous locations in Kentucky and Michigan. I saw one in the fall of 2017 flying along a dirt road in Yellowwood SF in Brown County, Indiana. There is a major issue with Hemilueca maia. It looks different from each location. The egg ring and larvae are very similar in appearance. Most of the location where I have found H. maia where in either prairie habitats or dry sand dune habitats with oaks and willows. I have only found egg rings on Willows. In Michigan I found adults only. Never found egg rings. There have been several papers describing Hemilueca "maia" type Buck Moths as new species and/or subspecies. A new species was described from western New York. It looked like H. maia to me with smaller white markings. Never saw photos of egg rings or larvae. I do not know if any Bar Coding has been attempted. Regardless, they can be challenging and fun to collect. A number of years ago some grad students in California developed pheromone for the western Hemilueca's. They produced pheromone lures. I had several of them and they would attract H. maia as well.I have the "formulas" to produce the pheromones, however, the cost was/is out of sight. I do not remember all the issues for making pheromones, but it evidently takes lot's of time and some expensive materials. |
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Post by mothman27 on Nov 5, 2018 14:44:11 GMT -8
There is no such county as Iroquois in Indiana so I assume you meant Iroquois County, Illinois?
This reminds me of when I was going to receive Hemileuca lucina eggs from someone but he never sent them.
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Post by leptraps on Nov 5, 2018 14:58:29 GMT -8
Iroquois County, Illinois is cortect.
I collected both immatures and adults. I found egg rings and early instar larvae oall on willow. The year was 2006\2007.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 5, 2018 15:51:44 GMT -8
I asked a local entomologist about them a couple years ago. He said they sporadically and temporarily populate southern Illinois where I live. It may be 10 years before any make a appearance here.
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Post by leptraps on Nov 5, 2018 17:49:25 GMT -8
Joe mentioned southern Illinois. Well, just across the river from Evansville, Indiana in Henderson County, Kentucky is the Sloughs WMA. They have been collected there several times. I have not seen or collected them personally. I beleive Hemilueca Maria was collected in the Sloughs WMA during a Society of Kentucky Lepidopterists field meeting in the late 1980's.
I will confirm early next week.
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Post by LEPMAN on Nov 6, 2018 15:42:26 GMT -8
Leroy,
When should they be flying?
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Post by jshuey on Nov 7, 2018 5:09:49 GMT -8
I asked a local entomologist about them a couple years ago. He said they sporadically and temporarily populate southern Illinois where I live. It may be 10 years before any make a appearance here. I have to believe that they are in the Shawnee National Forest on the drier ridge tops along the river. And in northern Illinois in fens and wet prairies (the willow feeding population). John |
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Post by jshuey on Nov 7, 2018 5:10:38 GMT -8
Leroy, When should they be flying? Possibly right now. October is the classic month for southern Indiana. j |
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Post by exoticimports on Nov 7, 2018 5:47:50 GMT -8
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Post by joee30 on Nov 7, 2018 22:55:57 GMT -8
If you find Hemileuca in oak woodland, you have H. maia. If you find then on willow, then you have nevadensis, which is widespread farther north.
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Post by LEPMAN on Nov 8, 2018 18:49:50 GMT -8
Thanks for all the info!
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